Anon2971

joined 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is exactly my feeling as well. I like the design of it, but it doesn't feel like it's own thing. It feels like alternative content from the people I already follow on Instagram. It's like an echo chamber in an echo chamber.

I'll be curious to see if they ever decide to open it up to non-Insta users. I turn to Microblogging like Mastodon/Twitter for a completely different social media experience, not a different side of the same coin.

 

Reddit shockingly restored all the comments I deleted via PowerDelete Suite a while ago. If Reddit will do their damnedest to keep my content against my will, I'll do what I can to still change it and protest.

I'm taking that as a chance to instead replace most of my non-useful comments via the same tool with the following open letter. That way in the future if anyone comes across my content, rather than see a (deleted) or a suddenly empty post which could be unhelpful and frustrating, maybe the message I leave will provide some context and information for future Reddit visitors considering to use that platform (or stumbling across my posts via Google searches). So feel free to use this template too. I think a bunch of us leaving behind something for future Internet historians would be helpful at least until Reddit stops being a thing completely a la Digg.

"I removed most of my Reddit contents in protest of the API changes commencing from July 1st, 2023. This is one of those comments.

This decision has widespread implications such as making it more difficult for moderators to manage their subreddits, more likely for spam to enter subreddits, more difficult for blind users to access Reddit, more difficult for anyone to see NSFW content and many other negative consequences. Most third party applications are now gone due to the extortionate new pricing being unaffordable for developers despite widespread outrage from the community.

CEO Steve Huffman's awful leadership through the lackluster AMA and a press junket tour aggressively defending the situation insisting nothing will be changed, saying he'll modify the moderator rules to kick out protesters and force subreddits to reopen, demonstrates humongous contempt for the Reddit community that makes and manages Reddit's entire content library in the first place. Accusing a developer of blackmail and then completely ignoring all post pointing out how this is a lie with evidence - alongside other lies related to the API - is wild too.

I'm now using alternative community platforms like Kbin and Lemmy. Reddit's revenue comes from my posts. If that is how they wish to treat our community, they don't deserve my content any more.

This could have been easily avoided if Reddit chose to negotiate the API changes with their moderators, third party developers and the community their entire company is build around into a more reasonable middle ground. They have not.

RIP Reddit 2005-2023. You were Digg 5.0. So long and thanks for all the fish."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

BiShock - I'm Christian and unfortunately cannot elaborate further on this sinful content

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's been quite a relief seeing justice coming to three pieces of shit at the same time I never thought I'd see justice to

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Is anyone else really entertained at this point by watching this pompus asshat's arrogance single-handledly dismantling the pretty solid reputation Reddit has as a social media platform? It's like I blink and he thinks "hmm, how can I say something worse to show everyone how strong and powerful I am?"

I mean if Reddit's going to go down, may as well go down in the most spectacular self-emulation possible. Solid alternatives are already formed and off to the races. Go off my guy.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I think we should actively keep track of Reddit restoring user's content without people's permission. Screenshots, timestamps, everything. Monitor it all.

Maybe if Reddit go ahead with their API change whilst treating their users like such disposable crap, we could reach out to the EU to inform them of Reddit's GDPR breaches. Maybe that'd lead to their new revenue from API charges disappearing into hefty EU fines.

Update: Maybe there's going to be some loophole about actually having to use the data deletion request via Reddit's UI for there to be an actually GDPR breach though thinking about it. Going to ask around some Law friends for advise

 

Ars spoke with community mods about where Reddit goes from here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

by the time Star Citizen releases Musk will have made several trips to Mars and we will be literal star citizens

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

This is a really good explanation for how defederation works.

I understand your point that Beehaw defederating from two subs for moderation and user management seems like an extreme reaction. But it's one I kind of expected from them given Beehaw's philosophies as as an instance.

Their detailed posts about what Beehaw is always made it very clear to me they think carefully about how they run their space and the users they want to grant access to. They really prioritise making their instance a safe space for well-meaning discussion through their vetted registrations.

I'm not an admin. I'm not an experienced Lemmy user. I'm not someone who has had experience moderating and being an admin on several communities before. They have and I've also seen activity on the Lemmy repo from them showing they have dev experience too.

As you pointed out, the entire site of 12k users is currently managed by 4 people who seem to have quite a lot of experience managing communities. That's a big workload. I've been using both Beehaw and Kbin since Reddit's awful API changes to see how both places grow and so far I've found Beehaw to be a very enjoyable experience with a pretty high engagement rate. I usually get hella upvotes and replies to anything I say. It does feel like a pretty active, close-knit place of well-meaning people even at this early stage. I think they're running Beehaw pretty well so far. Kbin is very solid too, but Beehaw I've found tends to have a deeper level of engagement and longer, more in-depth post styles that I prefer.

I know any instances with open registration could hop in and contribute to Beehaw, so this issue they have of not being able to vet and control users isn't unique to those two instances. But given so far the place to me as a user still feels the same as when I joined a few days ago more or less, I'm going to take them at their word that they're getting an influx of activity that isn't a particularly good fit for Beehaw for now. There's a lot of instances that could defederate from. 2 is not a huge number so far. Plus they did explicitly say at the end this is not a permanent decision, they may very well change their minds later on.

So personally, I respect and understand Beehaw's decision at this moment. Lets give things time and see how things develop. It's definitely a temporary, broad axe to cutting an apple type solution to their troll problem - which may very well continue as Lemmy gets more popularity as a platform overall - but I think they want to be specific about who they pull into their moderation team to ensure the vibe of Beehaw is maintained. Lets give it some time to see what happens.

 

Hello, Lemmyverse. I'm posting from kbin and crossing my fingers it'll federate properly.

I'm quite enjoying using this platform as a Reddit replacement so far. But I just wanted to make this post about how federation is presented to the end user. As someone who is tech-inclined, I understand how it works - you can join either local instance communities or ones hosted via another instance by finding it's URL - but it's not something you can exactly easily figure out. You have to research and learn how to do it a bit.

I feel like having to use external websites like Browse Feddit just to find stuff to explore is going to be a major stumbling block for the growth of Lemmy. It's definitely not an accessible way to find communities. I'm personally able to find content I want so far, but the mere attempt to explain the Fediverse works seems to make people roll their eyes or immediately ignore Lemmy out of confusion.

I'm not sure what the solution is. But I just wanted to start a thread on that topic to open up a discussion about that. I think Lemmy has a pretty promising foundation as a social media platform in general otherwise. I'm all ears to any suggestions on how we could make the cross-instance communication that makes the Fediverse so unique easier to understand and explore.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FYI - don't message /r/food. I had a brief browse and saw absolutely no posts whatsoever about the blackout. Very much business as usual as if nothing happened. So I messaged them, their response was "Thank you for your unsolicited message shitting on our protest." and banned me lol. So leave them to it. I was pretty careful to word my message maturely (the first paragraph said 'I hope I’m not coming off as unreasonable, but I do think it’s vitally important for this protest to continue for it to have any real impact.'), but I guess some just really can't live without their Reddit addiction.

 

It’s disappointing to see some of the larger subreddits going public with a ‘what’s the point?’ tone. Most are staying private, but some aren’t. As if Reddit doesn’t exist solely because of its user generated content. If enough subs permanently shut down, they’ll be forced to reconsider their API position. Social media can't run without social media.

I decided to write a message to subreddits I’ve been lurking for years via messaging the mods saying how vitally important it is for subreddits to protest right now, at this critical time, before it’s too late. I’ve politely implored them to continue the protest saying how these API changes with have a long-lasting, permanent impact on Reddit as a platform for the worse.

I’d suggest you guys come up with your own letter template and message the mods of those subreddits in polite form. It’d be great if we can convince these exceptions to go private again. I also understand some moderators may be afraid Reddit will just replace them with mods willing to reopen the sub, so I added a section saying it they’re treated like that, Reddit don’t deserve their time and maybe they should consider spending their time elsewhere if that happens. This is their prime chance to stand up for the right thing right now for the future of Reddit.

I used Reddark to determine which subreddits to contact. I’d say only contact hobbyist ones such as sports rather than more politically-inclined ones like Ukraine that have a fair reason to stay open. Also some subreddits have made poll posts asking their users if they should go private like Gaming and NotTheOnion, so please don’t message those ones.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I've made a poll so we can decide. We could then add the most popular suggestion to the Codeberg repo. I'm personally leaning towards no self upvoting.

Update: Now we've had hella votes I've added a feature request to the repo.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess this is the new Reddit! Time to kick our feet up.

I expected as much. 2 days is a pitiful protest length. I will not be using Reddit any longer whilst keeping an eye on updates from here and other news sites. I'm hoping this memo encourages all subreddits to protest idnefinitely until this assclown of a CEO is willing to negotiate lower API prices. And if he's not, onto greener pastures. And watching /r/wallstreetbets figure out a way to destroy their IPO when it eventually launches.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm absolutely loving how thoroughly The Verge is covering this story. No other tech news site seems to be updating this situation so frequently and with such a supportive tone.

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