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Often they are fake, and just filled with cardboard. Corrupt Russia at its best.

Russians keep pushing hard! But allegedly the war is losing support in Russia, and the people have only just begun to feel the economic pain of it. Because Putin has pumped money from their war chest into the economy and to people the first 2 years.

interest rates just hit 20%

Russian central bank interest rate is 21%, If you need to borrow to buy a house, the rate is allegedly around 35%, and even higher for businesses.

if they can save money by cutting on safety testing or safety features, and they think they can get away with it, of course they’re going to.

This is an actual demand by Musk. Cut everything that isn't necessary. This is the reason turn signals are on the steering wheel, which actually makes it illegal to take drivers lessons in a Tesla in Norway.
It has also been demonstrated how this is very impractical in for instance roundabouts and impractical basic functions equals potential hazards.

Maybe the Tesla is not so strong on actual safety features, and it's more convenience features, that make people lazy so they don't pay attention when they drive.

the results are almost always going to be out of whack.

True, but Tesla cars are relatively new compared to the average, and new cars should be safer. Right?

I don't get the relevance of that link, it talks about logical falacies like:

A: "All rodents are mammals, but a weasel isn't a rodent, so it can't be a mammal."

I don't see how that's relevant, there is no way that can be seen as an ad hominem. The entire piece seems to be like that. And obviously ad hominem is not a logical fallacy as in flawed use of actual logic like boolean logic. And obviously explaining how and argument is wrong, is not an ad hominem. That's normal discourse to progress on the issue.

But this part:

Therefore, if you can't demonstrate that your opponent is trying to counter your argument by attacking you, you can't demonstrate that he is resorting to ad hominem.

I believe I have CLEARLY shown that the comment "you are hurt and angry" is exactly that. If it's not an argument based on his (wrong) interpretation of my person, then what is it?

From wikipedia which is way more concise, and actually talks about what an ad hominem is instead of what it is not:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Ad hominem (Latin for 'to the person'), short for argumentum ad hominem, refers to several types of arguments that are fallacious. Often currently this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument.

In this case me being emotional.
If he writes, you are wrong because you have a big nose. That's an obvious ad hominem. You are wrong because you are being emotional is an equally obvious ad hominem. They are the exact same fallacy as writing you are wrong because you are an idiot.

Those losses are massive. The air attack must have been huge.
It's like the Russians are panicking?

your fallacious claim that the person committed an ad hominem

I'm surprised you still consider it fallacious?

THIS PART IS THE PERSON’S ARGUMENT,

Yes I know, it's the way the argument is put with "You have to understand", as if I wasn't aware of a very obvious fact.
Put together with the bubble comment, he argues like a camouflaged MAGA, using "you too" arguments.

Absolutely, the narrative seems wrong. Yes Tesla cars are fast, but many people driving them are environmentalists and grown ups. Not generally people out to burn rubber in my experience.
I think maybe people are surprised by the speed, because you don't really notice exactly how fast you are driving and accelerating in a Tesla.
There may even be problems with some of the safety features, making people rely to much on them, so they think it's alright to not pay full attention to their driving, expecting to get notices or even to be helped by safety features. Obviously FSD/autopilot is a driving hazard if you rely on that.

I will argue that the controls of the car being on a screen instead of physical buttons is a problem too. That should simply not be allowed for functions that are needed for driving IMO.

People don't become inherently better or worse drivers on average based on the car they buy, so such a significantly bad statistic, twice as bad as average, more likely shows there are actual inherent safety problems with the car IMO.

Ok buddy, you only quoted part of what I said.

I took the part that was essential. Your claim about the below is essentially the same argument.

Your argument is wrong because you’re an idiot

That's the same as your argument is wrong, because you are angry and hurt, (and therefore not rational). Both are attacks on the person and not the argument. Although one is more polite than the other.

And oh he also claimed i was living in a bubble, so he actually made 3 comments that were ill camouflaged personal attacks, first on my emotional state, 2nd on my rationality, and finally claiming I'm uninformed from living in a bubble.

Yet I'm the one downvoted for calling his ad hominem out.
The fact that X is used outside USA is obvious, thinking he needs to "explain" that is ridiculous, and I live in EU, so I think I'm aware of that. And Xitter definitely also has a fascist agenda outside USA, but maybe he isn't aware of that?

None of the 3 attacks (non arguments) were ever qualified any further, probably because he can't.

But I understand why you are hurt and angry, but you must understand you are wrong, because "obvious fact", and you live in a Bubble.

So do you think that's an OK comment to our discussion? Because that's EXACTLY what the comment by NoiseColor to me boils down to. It's an even bigger ad hominem when put together.

A statement is only an ad hominem if 1) it’s attempting to refute an argument 2) by attacking the character/motive of the person

Which is EXACTLY what he did. And I even explained that in my previous post.