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You’ve got to wonder how much of it is genuine and how much is some in a third world country being paid by putin/xi to spread propaganda on social media

Okay I worked on my post. I believe everything in the title is backed up by what’s written in the article. I need sleep now, goodnight.

Ah okay this is more an error on my quoting the article as opposed to the title. I tried to write my title in relation to the entire wikipedia article but I see I overquoted from the stampede section which makes it seem like it’s only talking about stampedes and not crowd events in general.

One quote from the article that lets me paraphrase in more certain terms than what you provided is in the leading paragraphs “Such incidents are invariably the product of organizational failures, and most major crowd disasters could have been prevented by simple crowd management strategies.[4]”

Could you suggest a better wording that fits into the word limit? I had great trouble fiting the gist of the point within the character limit (I’ve only got two characters left). And had to remove a “might” and “usually” to be able to fit it all in.

I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything really. Just trying to share something I learnt on wikipedia and help lemmy feel more full. But I’m aware I can never make everyone happy.

Yep. Not the folks who create textbooks they force their students to buy for ludicrous prices so they can afford their fancy boat.

Unfortunately at that point if you try to move you can risk a crowd collapse which can be just as deadly. So you should be real careful about knocking people off their balance if you try to move around.

Perhaps I should have included this quote from tne article too?

most major crowd disasters can be prevented by simple crowd management strategies.[22] Crushes can be prevented by organization and traffic control, such as barriers.

This is talking about the cause I think. Panic can worsen the situation, but it almost never is the cause. And the panic is nearly universally justified.

The most recent US based example might be Astroworld. And there 10 people died right in front of the concert stage while the thing kept going on. Entire groups of people yelled “stop the show” and climbed up trees and fences to make space. Someone even made it up the TV operator tower and was pleading the operator to notify the authorities people were dying but was completely ignored.

Ce rapprocher de l’extreme droite semble être devenu normal de nos jours. Aus étas-unis, les démocrates font des loies anti-immigration en espérant que ca satisfera le peuple et qu’il ne votera pas l’extrême droite.

Mais la réalité c’est que ces électeurs ont des idées qui sont basées sur l’intolérance, et que l’immigration n’est que une manière d’exprimer ses idées sans être condamné. Au final, ils seront toujours la les électeurs même si y’a plus d’immigration.

Si l’on a appris une chose de la république Weimar en allemagne, c’est que le compromis et la tolérance avec l’extreme droite ne fait que l’aider. Il faut combattre le feu avec le feu pas leur passer du bois et espérer qu’ils en demanderont plus.

Y’a plus de détails (en anglais) et la source (en français) dans le poste original.

Knowledge should be free

Unless you download the pdf/epub off a very legal website. And only buy the books of small authors you want to support.