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TLDR at bottom.

On most linux forums, it seems that everyone is trash talking flatpaks, snaps, docker, and other containerized packages with the statement that they are "pre-compiled". Is there a real-world affect that this has with performance and/or security, and does this have to do with canonical and/or redhat leaving a bad taste in people's mouths due to previous scandals?

Also, it is easier for the developer to maintain only one version of the package for every user. All of the dependencies come with the package meaning that there aren't distro-specific problems and everything "just works" out of the box.

I understand that this also makes the flatpaks larger, but there is deduplication that shrinks them as you install more by re-using libraries. Do the drawbacks of a slightly larger initial disk usage really outweigh all of its advantages?

I have heard that flatpaks are slower than distro-specific compiled binaries but haven't seen a case where this affects performance in the real world.

TLDR: In most forums linux users tend to take the side of distro-specific packages without an explanation as to why.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No, I am using fedora silverblue which is point release. But there are rolling release immutable distros like opensuse aeon/kalpa im pretty sure. Basically the system files are read only and packages are "layered" onto the system image through transactional upgrades. Most of the packages you want to install should be in containers like flatpak (for gui) and distrobox (for terminal). This keeps the base system clean and small and doesn't get "bloated" like other mutable OS's.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's a way to go at least for rolling release. However, tw is looking less and less interesting than it used to 5 years ago now that all these shiny new immutable distros are coming out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like this ruins the aspect of an archive of information where users can go back through and find useful info similar to SO in a way. Maybe there will be a meta search engine for looking through all of the popular instances?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Wow I had no idea Kate had support for LSP after using plasma distros for years. I always assumed it was a basic text editor and used vim instead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure sid also has package freezes for when it moves up to testing. In general Debian's purpose is as a stable distro and it might be better to use a distro that focuses on rolling release for bleeding edge packages.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Can windows also break grub on gpt or only legacy mbr?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Tbh, I feel like it's a loud minority tho. The majority of linux users (also happen to be the quietest) are "normies" that use Ubuntu and don't have this type of attitude.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

b43 flashbacks 🥶

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Stable? That's for horses.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Flatpaks really have the added benefit of things just work. Many distros have problems with codecs for example and need to install extra packages to get video working in Firefox. The flatpak version doesn't require any of this and you can just install and move on with your life. Yes dependencies are "redundant" sometimes but you have the added benefit of a really clean base system without hundreds or thousands of lib or dev packages. Also sometimes you need a specific version of a dependency. Let's say you need to update it for compatibility with a specific package but that breaks another which needs an older version. The system can stay especially clean when it comes to the toolbox utility and dev environments (this is available in other distros as distrobox I think).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No BSD? 🥺👉👈

 

I've found that some of the replies in kbin have solid lines and some are dashed even though they are relplying to the same comment. Are dashed lines for accounts on unfederated instances or something similar? (still new to fediverse so not sure how this all works)

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