I mean that marks a stark point of acceleration for sure, but the division has been going on for a lot longer. All my US relatives have been glued to fox news for at least the past decade. My mom goes to visit them (we are from Honduras)and comes back spouting absolute nonsense, when I ask her why, the tv is always on with fox news, it's all they watch.
Before they all left Honduras in the 80s and 90s, they were left leaning, all of them. Now they aren't only right leaning, but radicalized and sound insane when talking. This "against the right" or whatever dude sounds actually just like them, but from the left. I don't feel comfortable sitting here feeling like the same that's happened to them is happening to us. Well, "us" considering I'm not from the US...
I love how this community has clearly become such an echo chamber that even people who try to speak with even a bit of logic and measure get downvoted to hell. Our words fall on deaf ears here.
I love how you keep assuming I'm a conservative. Years of your country pushing capitalism down everyone's throats is more than enough to radicalize anyone into hating conservatives and your fucking capitalistic, imperialistic tendencies as a country.
Nothing in your panicked, defensive comment suggests that you are capable of entering a dialogue in good faith.
This is LITERALLY PROJECTION. You ignored my entire post and proceeded to argue in bad faith and ignore the very clear statements, along with my entire post history, showing I'm not a fucking right winger. You Americans are so fucking dumb you cannot bother to do some critical thinking for once.
Shit like this is why the rest of the world just laughs while you guys burn yourselves to the ground.
What the fuck is NAMBLA, you know so much about right wing bubbles, you kinda sound like a troll account used only for screenshots to show how "unhinged" the left is. Either that or you're actually unhinged. Stop speaking for us on the left, please.
Is this how we are fighting this war now? Claiming stupid shit like "you didn't address all your lies" when I stated one single literal fact? How old are you kid? Not old enough to read a fucking paragraph?
I was simply pointing out how lost the nuance of party lines is to that other guy. Everything has shifted, divides have grown, both parties are so right leaning there's no real left leaning representation left. Yet I only see both sides doubling down on their echo chambers. I went through this shit (and fell for it hard) on reddit, I don't want a repeat here.
What false statements? And if you're not gonna read for shit then you might as well just keep screaming like an utter idiot, you fucking dumbass.
Edit: No, actually Jesus fucking Christ you pissed me off. You're either a troll or a fucking buffoon for assuming I'm a right winger. Get your head out of your ass, you fucking shill.
You're glad I admit what now? Lmao I know your country is literally burning in division of catastrophic proportions but no need to assume that anyone who disagrees with you is on the other side of the political spectrum.
Indeed conservatives shifted further right, and democrats also shifted right to the point that they don't represent the actual left leaning portion of the US, but by your tone on the matter, I wasn't sure you were aware of this shift. Are you also aware that the division between parties has been growing at alarming rates in recent years, whereas before you didn't have such ridiculous takes from either side? Every news channel and social media platform just keeps radicalizing and dividing and villanizing to the point where you actually come to believe the other side is the literal boogeyman that wants to burn the world down.
Reality is just a bit more nuanced than that. In the end, both sides will fuck you over because money, because the economy, because capitalism in general. Let's not pretend things would be different if everything was under the democrats' control. Sure, it can get Trump worse or DeSantis worse, but there's no "better" on the other side, just status quo and wall street money. The real truth is the political system in the US, and a lot of other countries, has been hijacked by money and corruption for a while now, and everyone is just cannon fodder to keep the money going and the power flowing.
Keep waging your war, just be mindful of spewing utter nonsense that just divides and radicalizes for the sake of dividing and radicalizing (such as that last paragraph). There are villains out there, and the GOO is absolutely rotten to the core, but we have to be mindful of just spewing utter hate like they do in their own bubbles, and we do have to remember that power corrupts no matter the side, take it from someone whose country got thrown under the bus by the Obama administration for the sake of "fighting communism", and Obama's been my favorite US president from recent years (Carter takes the crown, though). I don't know what the solution is to such ridiculous division in the US, but I'd wager it's not more hate and division.
I mean that marks a stark point of acceleration for sure, but the division has been going on for a lot longer. All my US relatives have been glued to fox news for at least the past decade. My mom goes to visit them (we are from Honduras)and comes back spouting absolute nonsense, when I ask her why, the tv is always on with fox news, it's all they watch.
Before they all left Honduras in the 80s and 90s, they were left leaning, all of them. Now they aren't only right leaning, but radicalized and sound insane when talking. This "against the right" or whatever dude sounds actually just like them, but from the left. I don't feel comfortable sitting here feeling like the same that's happened to them is happening to us. Well, "us" considering I'm not from the US...