Lenins2ndCat

Wow, it’s almost as if Beehaw didn’t like that people were doing exactly what the above link was telling people to do.

Mate what part of it being easy to make accounts on Beehaw do you not understand? If you can make an account there, I can make an account there. Get a grip. People will go wherever they want, posing this as some grandiose evil is fucking absurd.

That has fuck all to do with idealism or materialism.

Achieved by the ideology of the very people you're currently suppressing. All you're doing is moving this community hard-right, alienating the left by saying "this is not for you".

How do you think this discussion is gonna go down every single time this community ever gets linked anywhere now? It's gonna be "the community that banned socialists" and it's gonna attract the neoliberals and the far right as a result while ensuring everyone that leans remotely left says "oh, fuck that then". It's a completely shortsighted move for the future of the instance. It's going to have nazi bar syndrome.

As soon as we had that PM where you said "survival of the fittest" to me I knew something was up. You literally quoted Thatcherite/Ayn Randian philosophy to justify selectively not intervening in name squatting and community theft. Livid that I was led on by this place to begin with.

There is a reason you don’t find them on the television or in the newspaper

Ayy we do get in the media occasionally. They don't like it though, only allowed when they think it'll look bad.

Going nowhere fashy fash

They're not even federated with lemmyworld lmao.

And what does this prove? Oh god "make an account on beehaw to post on beehaw" or "make an account on a place that has access to that other place" is truly horrible stuff! Truly monstrous. They might be able to TALK to people and say "socialism is good actually" :O Like holy shit grow up.

Pointing at one or two fucking people discussing that shit is absurd. You think this community will never discuss making accounts on reddit to do reddit stuff? Or w/e. Trump's next big thing? You think ideologically participating liberals don't discuss going places and spreading liberalism? or idk. Jesus.

100% their “socialist” examples are all democratic capitalist nations.

What? No they fucking aren't. They are all literally the countries that you would call tankie. You have not read it. Bozo.

The actual socialist countries included(quoting from the study): China, Cuba, Mongolia, North Korea, Albania, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, USSR, Czechoslovakia, East Germany.

Liberals and literally just telling bare-faced lies. Name a more iconic duo.

I know because I personally spoke to him when he came over to the UK to help with some strike action that was happening here, Coventry if I recall correctly? But I guess you want video or some shit? Hasan and Chris Smalls quoting and big-ing up Lenin on stage?

Your whole premise is that communism is good and capitalism is bad. As if the world is that black and white. You sound like a first year political science student who just got done reading Manifest der Kommunistischen.

Yes. Communism is good and capitalism is bad. All of human history shows revolutions caused by class struggle drive forward human progress from one stage of society to the next. Communism will win. It is inevitable. No matter how many of us that you kill off.

Yeah for the sake of the historical battle I'm including everyone under the banner. Honestly not much infighting at that time other than at the intelligentsia level, which is obviously different to the organising and ground level.

These are jokes mate. People are playing around. The site is steeped in layers and layers and layers of irony. Nobody gives a crap what's happening over at Beehaw.

and apply idealisms to reality

Marxism is a materialist philosophy, it is specifically anti-idealism. I suspect this is a case of a person that does not understand what idealism actually means in this context though so I'll help out with a very simplified explanation:

Idealism = the belief that human beings control their environment through the use of ideas. That humans have ideas, and then use those ideas to impact their environment.

Materialism = the belief that human beings get their ideas from the material conditions that they find themselves in. That it is actually the environment that human beings exist in that gives them their ideas.

Marxism is a fundamentally a materialist philosophy. Its key thinkers were viciously anti-idealism and sought to ground marxist analysis in scientific analysis, hence the nickname "the immortal science". Liberalism on the other hand holds idealism as its core tenet and believes that if you just get enough people to change their ideas you can create change. Hence why many liberals think you can just convince the rich to go completely against their material interests with discussion rather than understanding that they hold their ideas because they are the rich, because of the material conditions they have that differ from the working class.

Reddit's statement was that it was banned for hatespeech lmao. You can even see this by checking https://www.reddit.com/r/chapotraphouse/

Just an absolute joke.