Shikadi

It says environmental in the title?

I can't tell from this summary if the article is sane or bat shit, but usually the bot is good

Edit: the article is good, the summary is bad

That's because it's never truly been about the rights of the fetus, it's always been about controlling women

Side thought, it's really weird that the right refers to the left as liberals, but the left refers to right-wing "centrists" as liberals, so everybody shits on liberals.

Free speech is not what you think it is. In your scenereo you have the right to try to say what you're trying to say. Just because your opinion is unpopular and people are unwilling to publish (freedom of speech and the press goes both ways, you can't force someone to say something either) does not mean your rights are being infringed. This is universal and not just the US. There are no countries I'm aware of that say "all publishers must publish anything anyone says regardless of their credibility". It would be ludicrous.

And if we go back to my example, that person who believes that they're teaching children something true can go through the proper channels of society to change the curriculum. I'm also unsure if you're actually giving the idea of "black people are out to get you" space or just hypothetically, I chose it as an example that's obviously not true. Replace it with teaching them that strange white vans have candy in them and it's okay to eat it. Or replace it with them explaining to the children sexual actions they desire in great detail. Your absolutism says they should be allowed by the school to do this, and if that doesn't change your mind, I've made my case, you disgust me, and I choose not to engage further.

I strongly disagree with you and think you're wrong. Especially that you would allow teachers to teach children that black people are out to get you, all to protect some made up ideal that was never intended when the first amendment was added.

I'm a very strong supporter of free speech. But free speech absolutism where you go out of your way to make all voices heard is not what free speech is about. It's about the government not interfering. Just like people have a right to a gun, but Walmart has the right to kick you out for bringing one, rammy.site users have the right to say whatever they want, and other instances have the right to defederate.

If a teacher goes against the curriculum and teaches children that black people are all out to get them, I sure as hell hope the school would step in and stop or remove them.

That's not a violation of free speech, but in your opinion above it would be.

That's much more reasonable than I expected =D I'd argue they can make an account on another instance if they want to participate

I didn't call them right wing?

Just looked at hexbear. I'd defederate them too. Though given they're shitting all over liberals and saying how great Stalin was, I wouldn't call them left wing either, other than liking communism. But maybe it counts as not right wing?

The time I spent interacting with lemmygrad, it seemed to me that although they were completely misinformed (Stalin denial and such) they believed what they were saying and weren't actively and knowingly trying to hurt people. They believe the Chinese government is good and heading in the right direction for example. Their goal, while heavily misinformed, is to make life better for people. Not to spread hate and discrimination and violence. It's a lot more gray area imo. I highly doubt the people spreading shit through exploding heads don't know what they're posting is bs. I could be wrong though. Regardless, I'd understand if the decision was made to defederate with them, but they're not going around saying "kill trans people, kill the Jews" to my knowledge. I haven't seen hexabear yet

Edit: I went back to lemmygrad to take a look, it's worse than it was last time I was there. What I said still applies, but to a much lesser degree

Go find me a left wing instance that spreads hateful disinformation and incites violence and I'll ask to defederate with them too. Just because the right is the only side doing it doesn't mean they'd be removed for being on the right.

If someone goes to jail because they murdered someone, it wasn't because of their political preferences.