Meta is a capitalist social media company and they seem to be doing okay. Facebook might be uncool with the kids these days but it's still massive. And Instagram and WhatsApp are still very popular.
I think the difference between Meta and Reddit is that I bet Meta would issue some sort of apology and carefully crafted PR if they found themselves in Reddit's current situation. But Reddit doesn't even seem to care about angering its users, which just feeds the anger more.
Here's a link to the same post on Teddit, an alternative front-end to Reddit, to read the same post:
Viewing it this way means you're not giving Reddit traffic.
The US government hasn't shut down the KKK though. Unless I'm wrong, I don't think it's possible to shut down political groups in the US, due to the first amendment.
So I think that would be a big difference between the US and Russia. Russia bans organisations it considers "extremist", but I don't think the US does.
Also, Russia is arresting people for expressing opposition to the invasion of Ukraine, even in private conversations. I don't think the US arrested people who expressed opposition to the Iraq War - a war which Russia-supporters seem to love comparing the invasion of Ukraine to.
Is there actually a particular rule against turning SFW subs into NSFW subs?
Or is Reddit just desperately trying to interpret their rules in whatever way they desire because they're panicking at losing revenue?
It's just manipulation of course. They're trying to guilt-trip mods into doing what Reddit wants. Reddit's concern here is obviously not for the poor innocent users being deprived their access to these subreddits. Reddit's concern is maximising the amount of cash that flows into their pockets.
If Reddit actually cared about the users then they would respect the subreddits where users have voted to keep the subreddit private or change the subreddit to NSFW content. But Reddit is not respecting these votes from users, because they only care about the cash flowing into their pockets.
Reddit's response to everything over the last week or however long it has been:
"Fuck you, we don't care about you, we want to line our pockets, we literally think of users as dirt, we expect you to bow down and kiss our shoes"
There are these:
The most popular of those seems to be the one on lemmy.world (accessible from Kbin at https://kbin.social/m/[email protected])
I was going to suggest that maybe a large group of mods could stop moderating until changes are made. Because Reddit would have a hard time replacing all those mods quickly, I would've thought.
But then, are changes from Reddit desirable at this point? They've shown just how determined they are to make themselves richer at users' expense. The best thing is for Reddit to fail at this point, I think.
The bots have started.
This is the same as me. When I first read about this issue I thought "fair enough if Reddit wants to charge for their API, they have server costs to pay". And I didn't use 3rd party apps.
But their behaviour since then is what makes me not want to use Reddit anymore. They clearly have no intention to treat users or mods with respect. When users are voting to close their subreddits, Reddit is forcing those subreddits open, because Reddit only cares about lining their pockets. They're ignoring democracy when it suits them, despite the CEO saying he thinks Reddit should be more democratic (because he thought users would vote out the mods - the outcome he wants). He clearly never cared about democracy at all.
I mean sure, every business ultimately cares about money, but most businesses are smart enough to not treat their users like crap. Most businesses recognise that you have to respect your users to at least some degree if you want them to keep using your services. Reddit seems to have completely forgotten that.
Every subreddit should do this