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When the LD SB80 episode mentioned Matt and Kimolu were infected on an away mission, it reignited some thoughts/questions about how the lives of Cetacean officers in an era of Trek where whales are beginning to become more common as crew members.

Here's the discussion that I think can be had within current canon: I can't help but notice what seems to be a difference in the quality of life between Gillian on Voyager-A and Matt and Kimolu on the Cerritos.

Sure, Matt and Kimolu don't have as flashy or futuristic-looking of an aquarium, but in addition to having each other, the pool-like design of their accommodations allows them easy interaction (a.k.a parties) with the crew. I feel like there's much more opportunity for them to have a fulfilling social life on the Cerritos.

In comparison, Gillian feels very enclosed and isolated from the rest of Voyager; there's always glass between here and the crew (as humpbacks sometimes need to surface, I image there's probably an area with some air in the aquarium), and people are shown having to wear full suits to be in the same space as her. In addition, there's no other whale with her. In fact, we don't really see a staff of officers in Cetacean ops - just Rok. It seems like a very lonely existence.

Of course, a lot of these seeming inequalities can be attributed to circumstance rather than neglect on Starfleet's part. For one, Gillian, canonically a humpback, is more than triple the size of Matt or Kimolu, belugas, so it's much harder to design any space at all for her on a starship, let alone one that gives her the freedom to safely interact with crew.

As for being the only humpback on Voyager, this is probably because there just aren't that many - her species was only repopulated less than a century ago during the whale probe incident.

Now, here's some more difficult-to-answer questions:

  • How often do whales go on away missions?
  • What precautions do they have to take on away missions?
  • Do these missions come up organically, or is there some sort of quota?
  • How does their shore leave work?
  • What is the Academy like for whales? Is there an aquatic division? Do they sometimes have co-ed events with land-based cadets?
  • Honestly, what is the life of a civilian Federation whale like? Do they have mobility accommodations should they e.g want to go see Vulcan or something? Do they live like 21st century whales, or are there LCARS panels in the ocean?

These questions definitely can't be answered with current lore, but I guess we can imagine and/or extrapolate from how Starfleet has accommodated other non-humanoid officers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I find it kind of sad they haven't done anything in the 2290s-2350s era. I think it would be fun to have a series with April in monster maroon coming up on his second retirement in the late 2310s or early 2320s.

The IDW miniseries Picard's Academy was set in this era (aligning with previous canon of when Picard went to the Academy). I enjoyed it (checked it out from my local library), though probably half just because of Spock's outfit, honestly.

EDIT: April probably wouldn't be the primary focus. It would probably focus on a diplomatic ship or maybe even the Academy or civilians. It probably couldn't be too action-based, as we don't want to undermine this being one of the most peaceful eras in Federation history - I worry to do anything interesting, you'd have to pull Disco-style shenanigans again. No matter one's opinion on Disco, I feel like it would be kind of obnoxious to do another "this secretly happened and no one knows about it" series.

 

I was rewatching DS9: "Bar Association" and totally thought this is what should have been done instead, so here it is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

This distro’s default background isn’t a knockoff of any particular popular non-*nix proprietary operating system’s default background:

 

In Trek fandom, we often think about the badmirals. However, we never consider radmirals. With that in mind, who do you think is the best admiral? This includes commodores, vice admirals, rear admirals, etcetera.

I’m not counting main characters who got promoted after their main series e.g Picard, Kirk, Janeway, La Forge, etcetera.

 

Seriously, though. I think I've seen this guy in the grocery store down here in AZ.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Everybody knows glorious leader’s operating system. 😉

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, rather than reinstalling, I’d suggest you boot into a live disk and use dd to copy your old disk over to the new one, then use Gpsrted or something to expand your partition. This worked very well when I upgraded the drives for my Debian install - I think it’s been two years since at thid point without any issues.

If you don’t have an extra drive slot, you might need to get an external adapter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

My only theory is they were kind of as prolific as the TOS film uniforms and lasted into the 2240s and were getting rare but still seen occasionally in the 2260s.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can’t be as bad as Earth: Final Conflict - I’ve watched the first season-and-a-half and was sustained at first by plot and then by awe at how shark jumpy it got after Boone died and how alien space baby rapid aged into an adult man and replaced him as the main character.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

After watching other Star Trek shows, you'll find the true beauty is the vast majority of Lower Decks completely fits into canon, as "the true Star Trek lore" contains some ridiculous stuff.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

I just realized something else - I think this episode might contain the first mention of Cetacean ops going on an away mission, which reveals a lot about how their Starfleet lives might work.

I still wonder about several things, which I’ve been wanting to make my own post about anyway and probably will soon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I like Debian. To save you the misery, though, you should probably just use the OBS Flatpak with it. I used to be a “native” pedant, but these days, I at minimum consider Flatpak a VERY necessary evil, if an evil at all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You dare defile Lower Decks by calling other stuff “More cannon”! Experience bij, petaQ! 😉

In all seriousness, though, I would say DS9. The first season is much better than TNG season 1 in my opinion - not perfect, but livable. It mostly gets better from there, though like VOY, be prepared for sudden urges for Rick Berman to “accidentally fall out an airlock”, if you know what I mean.

This might be tinted by DS9 being my favorite Trek series, although Lower Decks is putting up fierce competition for DS9’s top spot in my heart.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Still waiting for word on LD soundtrack vol 2. I want more of those good Westlake tunes!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Every time I work with a Mac, Hackintosh, etcetera, the 5K upscale of XP Bliss is my default as a joke (except I think near the end of one school year, where I set the background to something from OS 9).

It was even my iPhone background for a while, though right now, it’s a random James Webb image.

 

Matt and Kimolu scream in terror. As a result, a Klingon tells the anaphasic presence to experience bij.

Let's bring glory to our friends in Cetacean ops!

 

Okay, I admit Vendome came after, but still, it's not like ops/security/engineering people have never become captain. Plus, come on. Vendome's face was just begging to be memed.

The main example I can think of from canonically before this moment is Uhura, though everyone was wearing red uniforms at the time.

 

After rewatching DS9: “Defiant”, I had a thought; to prevent transporter clones from impersonating each other, could Starfleet require, as a part of duty, that transporter clones receive slight genomic resequencing that changes no major traits but allows DNA scanners to distinguish them?

I can think of a few issues. One, would it break genetic experimentation laws even though there would be negligible changes to each transporter clone? Two, is this too sever a violation of personal liberties for the Federation to be allowed? Three, is the technology there to do this effectively in a starship’s sickbay?

 
 

I have several that I've leaned towards over the years, but I recently added "Cyclops Rock" to my repertoire.

 

Personally, to keep my documents like Inkscape files or LibreOffice documents separate from my code, I add a directory under my home directory called Development. There, I can do git clones to my heart's content

What do you all do?

 

I wonder if it's just coincidence, if this inspired the Johns (I know they're Ramones fans, or if the two songs share a common ancestor.

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Confusion on Trek Eras (startrek.website)
submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

TLDR; Is PRO TNG or PIC era? Do Trek eras as we know them even matter anymore?

Edit: Fixed TOK to be TWOK era. My 2 brain cells had failed me there.

Before I give my problem, here's what I find the conventional Star Trek eras to be (including some common sub-eras that some might consider distinct):

  • ENT era: 2150s-2160s
  • TOS era: 2250s-early 2290s
    • TWOK era: 2270s-early 2290s
  • Lost era: 2290s-roughly 2330s
  • TNG era: 2340s-early 2380s (I count Enterprise C as roughly the start of the TNG era. At the very least, the shuttle for the Hansen's ill-fated trip in the 2350s has the trappings of the TNG era).
    • DS9/VOY/TNG film era: 2370s, maybe early 2380s
  • PIC era: mid 2380s-early 25th century (I think the Utopia Planetia in 2385 is my cutoff)
  • DIS era: 32nd century

I think most newer series have obvious placements, e.g:

  • DIS starts in the TOS era, then starts its own era.
  • SNW is in the TOS era (I'd argue it's straight up canon, based on LD).
  • LD is TNG era, based on LCARS designs and the story conventions it parodies/pastiches.

However, the main thing that is ruffling my feathers is that PRO's placement in my framework is very confusing. It exists on an awkward border between TNG and PIC.

On one hand, some of its storytelling conventions fit better with PIC, not to mention the fact that the Utopia Planetia attack occurs at the end of PRO.

On the other hand, PRO continues some TNG era characters that aren't yet elderly versions of themselves.

This goes back to the initial question: Do we place the vast majority of PRO in the TNG era (and have like the last five minutes of season 2 [hopefully not the show] in PIC era), or do we extend the Picard era backwards to 2383 to include PRO in its entirety?

The 2383 solution might work, as that leaves 2382 in the TNG era for the 5th season of Lower Decks.

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