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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Even with newspapers and the like are filter bubbles possible. I am free to buy only the newspaper who writes the stories in the way I want to read them. There are left wing newspapers and right wing newspapers and stuff in between. And even with newspapers and broadcasts you are still free to only consume what you want to consume and block, by not buying or active ignoring, what you not want to see or hear. Things like cracker-barrel philosophy or Stammtischparolen where a thing long before the Internet.

Are you arguing that the filter bubble effect is the same for a newspaper and for a social media site?

Yes, the filter bubble effect is still possible to some extent with a traditional chronological news feed, but it's quite frankly absurd on it's face to claim that that is the same severity of filter bubble, when a site like Reddit / Lemmy operates by taking those chronological news feeds and filtering them further.

The Guardian might be a relatively true neutral newspaper (meaning it appears to lean left by mainstream standards), and yet articles it publishes that back up any remotely right wing / economically conservative points do not get posted here.

Echo chambers naturally arose in the past because information could not travel freely, that does not mean they are a good thing or something that we should be recreating and reinforcing on the internet now that it can.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Notice how all of those numbers are substantially larger or smaller, by many orders of magnitude, than a couple of hundred.

Are you intentionally trying to avoid understanding what I'm writing?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

You are referring to literally everyone you disagree with as a Nazi. You are an example of someone who lives in a toxic filter bubble.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Then you should pick a reputable paper like The Guardian and read a chronological RSS feed. Articles that don't support Lemmys preexisting point of view don't even get posted here.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Fascist? Are you fucking kidding me? You're literally just describing newspapers, broadcast news, town criers, and literally all life pre-internet.

Filter bubbles occur because we have the ability to selectively choose to only hear news we like which is a new phenomena that is a result of the internet, because it is fundamentally a messaging system, not a broadcast system like virtually every news system throughout history.

You are just falling into the American trap that personal freedom is the ultimate good and should trump everything else, even if the systemic effects of it are bad.

Reddit / Lemmy are fundamentally not a good place to read the news and get informed because of the filter bubble effect. They're a good place to go have an in-depth discussion about an article, but if you actually want to be informed then you should use an RSS reader or something else that gives you a chronological feed, not one based on what's popular amongst people you already agree with.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Yes, it's this little thing called context, thresholds, and relative magnitude.

If your brain is only evolved to process numbers up to a hundred or two, then everything 10000+ is similarly processed through abstractions rather than your brain being able to directly comprehend and compare them.

If instead of asking a guffawing question, you actually tried to point out why my reasoning was flawed, you may have realized those basic aspects of how language and reasoning work on your own.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I know I tuned out of Alan Wake 1 really early thinking it was going to be a boring 'look around with a flashlight game'. I was very surprised by how fun and intricate the combat eventually got when I went back and actually played it through.

Tap for spoilerI was certainly not expecting it to turn into a destruction derby / vehicular combat game halfway through.

And on the writing side, I didn't realize just how funny and tongue in cheek it all is. I think Alan Wake is always a bit of a hard sell because Remedy wants to gradually build and surprise you with new things, and all their humour is super deadpan and satirical of this hard boiled story, which can combine to make it seem kind of boring at a surface / marketing level until you get into the game and realize what's happening and how much fun they're having with it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

I will be buying this as a Christmas present for several friends.

Really, really fantastic game, and Remedy is one of the best studios in existence right now. I can't think of many other games / studios that take swings as big as them.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Being factually incorrect about literally everything you said changes nothing? Okay.

Yeah bruh, it's this little thing called being pedantic.

If I say wealth inequality is crazy, no one should have 250 billion dollars, and you say 'well actually Jeff Bezos only has 210 billion dollars', then I will be factually incorrect and my point will still be completely valid.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

That changes literally nothing of what I said. Your brain did not evolve to process those scales accurately. If you think you can, that just means you're lacking in self reflection.

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