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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That sounds massively illegal.

Holding elections and referendum together is kinda illegal but who's going to stop them.

I hope you have a good supreme court.

EU is suing us because supreme court doesn't meet criteria for being independent and impartial. Constitutional court is even worse.

But even then, people could still vote against the proposed referendum

The questions are "have you stopped beating your wife yet?" themed and any participation legitimizes this circus unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, 50% quorum required.

Parliamentary elections turnout will easily exceed 50% so it'll be a huge cluster fuck to boycott referendum because people will likely be handed both ballots by default. It's illegal to take ballot away or destroy it. Invalid votes are counted toward quorum. So far it looks like we'll have to specifically refuse and have this on the record.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Right now all of the proposed questions are so bonkers that many people will get parliamentary elections ballot and ignore referendum. EU accession referendum is the only referendum ever that met quorum in Poland so putting that question on a ballot could potentially mobilize people.

PiS won't do it because their long term plan is to sow enough distrust to EU that they would have to "begrudgingly" leave the EU in a couple of years. They don't need a referendum for that either - previous government (led by PO) passed a law so that only a parliamentary majority is required for that IIRC.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Also worth pointing out: referendum campaign has less strict spending limits compared to parliamentary elections so this is one more way (on top of utilizing state media and state owned enterprises) that PiS can outspend competition in upcoming elections which are held on the same day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Don't get me wrong, I fully understand that a fascist is not the same thing as a communist. But they're equally despicable.

Fascism is inherently anti-democratic, communism isn't. I know communism is a shorthand for stalinism, maoism and other totalitarian ideologies that use socialist facade (similar to national socialism) but it's worth to make an effort not to discredit the whole idea.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People half-joke that coming to Fediverse is easy, all you need to do is select a provider like you do with e-mail.

In case of Lemmy this omits the part where you have to block dozens of communities because they shill for genocidal regimes and you can't block them and their users wholesale using instances. You also have to be on a lookout for trolls that coordinate on those instances and use alts from other instances. If you aren't careful enough your experience might be akin to a conspiracy Facebook group but obviously it's users fault.

Mastodon doesn't have this issue despite using same Activity Pub framework.

Kbin doesn't have it.

It's Lemmy developers and instances that somehow ended up with staggering amount of tankie trolls, to the extent that exceeds even alt-right trolls on Reddit.

Telling people to start their own instances is acknowledging that the issue is so widespread that there are no instances with sane policies.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

They're A-D masquerading because it has some plausible deniability.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's the dishonesty that makes me despise those guys the most. How could you dislike them when they're so civil in their shilling for genocidal regimes, eh?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Modern day tankies are indistinguishable from fascists since they shill for fascist shitholes like Russia and China. I don't care about intent, everyone can lie about it. You can't lie about outcomes.

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