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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Whether it's a good thing or not depends entirely on your philosophical views. There is no objectively correct answer, and which arguments may convince someone very much depends on the values and perspectives of the person you are trying to convince.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (17 children)

It seems like a quite pointless discussion since you both seem to have already decided your minds.

They don't accept your sources? Why? If they really are valid and they just cherry-pick sources, then there is no way of convincing them.

On the other hand, you also just seem to dismiss their counterarguments without much thought. If they can give a counterargument for your every argument, then maybe your arguments actually aren't good?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Asiatic hordes? Aren't the majority of Russians european?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

there is no way to do the equivalent of banning armor piercing rounds with an LLM or making sure a gun is detectable by metal detectors - because as I said it is non-deterministic. You can’t inject programmatic controls.

Of course you can. Why would you not, just because it is non-deterministic? Non-determinism does not mean complete randomness and lack of control, that is a common misconception.

Again, obviously you can't teach an LLM about morals, but you can reduce the likelyhood of producing immoral content in many ways. Of course it won't be perfect, and of course it may limit the usefulness in some cases, but that is the case also today in many situations that don't involve AI, e.g. some people complain they "can not talk about certain things without getting cancelled by overly eager SJWs". Society already acts as a morality filter. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Free-speech maximslists exist, but are a minority.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, I, and most lawmakers in the world, disagree with you then. Those restrictions certainly make e.g killing humans harder (generally considered an immoral activity) while not affecting e.g. hunting (generally considered a moral activity).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

So what possible morality can you build into the gun to prevent immoral use?

You can't build morality into it, as I said. You can build functionality into it that makes immmoral use harder.

I can e.g.

  • limit the rounds per minute that can be fired
  • limit the type of ammunition that can be used
  • make it easier to determine which weapon was used to fire a shot
  • make it easier to detect the weapon before it is used
  • etc. etc.

Society considers e.g hunting a moral use of weapons, while killing people usually isn't.

So banning ceramic, unmarked, silenced, full-automatic weapons firing armor-piercing bullets can certainly be an effective way of reducing the immoral use of a weapon.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

While an LLM itself has no concept of morality, it's certainly possible to at least partially inject/enforce some morality when working with them, just like any other tool. Why wouldn't people expect that?

Consider guns: while they have no concept of morality, we still apply certain restrictions to them to make using them in an immoral way harder. Does it work perfectly? No. Should we abandon all rules and regulations because of that? Also no.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But isn't it obvious that if a presidential candidate promises some legislation, that it is contingent on the legislative branch?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Didn’t pursue codification into law in his first hundred days j

As (again) a non-american, doesn't that require both chambers to support the legislation?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

I'm not even american, so I'm not sure what you arw on about right now. All I asked was how Roe v. Wade being repealed was Biden's fault, and the answer apparently is that he did not pack the court.

How genocide fits into Roe v. Wade, or how callling me names somehow helps I'm still unsure of.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Never let it be forgotten that Roe v. Wade was struck down during a Democrat administration

Ok, but what does that have to do with said denocrat administration? What say did they have in the matter? What could they have done to change the outcome?

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