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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Can’t see if this works on the Steam Deck or not… Guess I’ll just have to try it…

Aleph One reportedly works absolutely fine natively under Linux but for whatever reason the Aleph One developers don't upload the Linux version to Steam.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well, the Aleph One project was there a long time.

It is an upload by Aleph One.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Are people actually worried they would would see straight up ads coming into their mastodon feeds if their server federates with Threads? That’s a pretty wild assumption to make.

Not only are they worried, they think that this is a foregone conclusion. They think it's more important to block Threads preemptively than to actually make an informed decision ... looking if Meta would actually somehow misuse federation and then block them, should that happen. I've seen Lemmy instances block Threads before they block any neo-nazi and pedo instances. Seriously, WTF. The hysteria is insane. Threads content can't currently even show up on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

But I’ll point out that federating ads would mean using my server’s infrastructure to serve ads on behalf of someone else.

Marvel Comics could make an account on any Mastodon server and make posts to promote an upcoming movie. That's a regular post, containing promotional material. What makes it an ad (or a sponsored post) in IG/Threads terms is to push such posts to users via targeting algorithms who didn't subscribe to Marvel Comics. Threads cannot do that via ActivityPub, so your Mastodon server cannot serve Threads ads.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 hours ago

What great arguments you have.

Yes, I have, you just chose not to quote any of them. Threads cannot push ads to Mastodon users who don't want to see them. Mastoton users can subscribe to brand accounts who then may make promotional posts but again: Threads cannot push any of those to users as ads. That's simply not how ActivityPub works. I explained this countless times already. Certain people just aren't interested in facts and choose to quote selectively as if those arguments were never made. That's dishonest.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

https://sh.itjust.works/instances lists threads.net under the blocked instances list, not everyone is using lemmy.world. Inform yourself before accusing others of making uninformed statements.

But you're in an lemmy.word-hosted community right now, interacting with me who has a LW account, so you're participating on a platform that's federating with Threads. That's like claiming not to participate with anything Google while mailing these claims to GMail addresses. You're participating. You just don't know how ActivityPub works and that's why you think that being on any Fediverse server that didn't explicitly block Threads would result in sposored posts from Threads magically showing up. You're a conspiracy theorist.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

I don’t need threads content that badly.

You can block entire servers yourself. No need for an instance to defederate.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 hours ago (7 children)

Go to some junk instance that’s willing to federate if you want.

The Mastodon instance I use already does and absolutely nothing negatively happened to it. Mastodon users can just block entire instances on their own if they happen to not like any content from there.

Federating with Threads makes an instance unacceptable as far as most of us are concerned. Their mere existence is malignant.

That's based on conspiracy theories and not an actually informed decision based on how the Fediverse works. Most of you don't even understand that Threads content wouldn't even show up on Lemmy in the first place. Threads doesn't even have communities.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

That’s why they have stealth enshittification techniques to disguise them.

Promotional posts don't magically show up on Mastodon for users who don't follow the brand account that posted them. That's not how Mastodon works.

If I were to follow Marvel Comics via Mastodon, boosted a post, then my followers would see the post, just as they would see the post if I made a screenshot from a Marvel tweet and posted that to Mastodon but Marvel posts would not just show up for random Mastodon users just because Marvel paid Meta to promote a post on Threads. Only Threads website and app users would see such posts.

It's amazing how uninformed Fediverse users are of the basics of how the Fediverse works.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

The example shown literally is a regular post simply marked “Sponsored” so it can be assumed that post would federate just like any other post.

Instagram shows its users sponsored posts from accounts you don't follow. Threads will do the same for users of its website and apps. These posts will not magically show up on Mastodon from accounts one doesn't follow. If a Mastodon user would follow the profile of a brand, they'd get the posts from that account that would obviously contain promotion (just as any brand is free to join Mastodon right now and promote products there) but as @troed 100% correctly wrote: You don’t get posts from accounts you don’t follow.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Copied a submission by https://www.reddit.com/user/Mahadness here in case it gets taken down there. (Pls note: Originally the bottom right bit was a separate image in a gallery submission because the low-res main image made it unreadable. I upscaled the main image and pasted the readable quotes selection there.)

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