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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Indeed, it was pure hubris and this monumental mistake on the part of the west. Prior to the conflict, few questioned the power of NATO, but now it is clear that this alliance lacks the resilience necessary for a serious war effort and that the west's economy is not as self-sufficient or pivotal as once thought. The economic front of this conflict has created an entirely separate economy outside of western influence, further highlighting the importance of Russian resources. This realization is particularly unsettling from a Western perspective because European countries are now forced to purchase these resources at inflated prices through third parties rather than directly from Russia. As such, there's no turning back from this point and it will undoubtedly be remembered as a significant catalyst for the decline of the western empire in history books.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Yup, the west has screwed itself over in a multitude of ways in this situation. Really even if they had engaged Russia in Ukraine but told Ukraine to concede the Donbas it would still have been fine, but at this point so many mistakes have been made that as you said there’s no turning back. Really the biggest one was freezing and then taking the Russian reserves that were in the US.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (4 children)

For sure, there were many offramps available even after the conflict started and the west chose to take the worst possible way forward each and every time.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well they didn't officially send US uniformed troops to Ukraine, which might have been the very worst possible way since it would have meant either tens of thousands of coffins heading back or global nuclear holocaust

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

I mean that's still a possibility.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Well, the French just deployed, so now we know that it's going to be European soldiers dying before US soldiers finally go in

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