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Otherwise gee fucking idiots I guess you realy needed a whole research department to figure things out like

•Alt-Right supergroup activity remains near its all-time high. This activity has been high since the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago in August (Fig. 1).

•The forums with the greatest use of Violent/Aggressive discourse in November were in Health Misinformation, scoring higher than Incels/Femcels and the Extreme Right (Fig. 7).

•Reference to sex crimes was up 13% in December and was up 32% since August (Fig. 11).

:the-democrat: reading this : "Great, its all according to the plan. Carry on mrMcdoofus, keep us informed, this is very useful information, it will come in handy when we decide to do absolutely nothing for the next 2 years."

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's probably some incredibly dumb shit like looking for things like "die, dies, dying, kill, kills, killed," which would also explain why antivaxxers are so very elevated if it's reading shit like "fluoridated water KILLS!" and marking that as "violent" when it's just unhinged boomer brain shit.

That would also mean that a comment like "kicking people out of their homes is an act of violence, it is attempted murder and it kills and immiserates people," would read as more violent (because keywords) than someone explicitly calling for minorities to be genocided in short or even slightly obfuscated language. Discussing violence that has happened probably scans exactly the same as direct calls for violence.

Hell, this dispassionate explanation of their reasoning will probably have the algorithm in full :wojak-nooo: : :agony-shivering: :doomjak: mode because of all the keywords.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, unless they explicitly look for fascist language, a fascist saying "day of the rope now" doesn't show up as violence on whatever algorithm they use

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

They do appear to have fascist dogwhistles on the list

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Chiming in as a silly little grad student applying natural language processing in my research... :

It’s probably some incredibly dumb shit like looking for things like “die, dies, dying, kill, kills, killed,”

Yup. The author references the Linguistic Inquiry Word Count (LIWC) program, which pretty much does exactly that. It's got hundreds of different "linguistic categories" that you can very easily and quickly scan for. Each linguistic category, or "dictionary", is a list of words that are said to reflect a different topic, idea, feeling, etc., and the program will tell you how many words in each text fit into different categories.

If you scroll down to Table 2 on Page 12 of this document, you can see some of their categories and a few example words for each one. You can also make your own "dictionaries", which I think this dude also did. They have a demo on the LIWC website that you can cry, and you will almost immediately see how limited this process actually is.

In research on natural language, like studies that scrape and analyze posts online, it's a hugely popular method for doing the laziest and easiest topic modelling or semantic analysis possible (i.e., looking for themes or concepts that people or talking about, or how they are expressing emotions in text). Like you point out, it's totally devoid of context, so it's validity doesn't extend much beyond "they are using XYZ words this often".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So what you're saying is that now we're being watched we should make an effort to use as many violent words as possible, ie. instead of writing "I would really like a cookie" we should write "I could kill for a cookie"?

I think we owe it to Richard to be good little lab rats and give him some of that violent extremism he's looking for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Boy howdy it's a scorcher out there, I would VIOLENTLY DISEMBOWEL and DECAPITATE someone for a lemonade today

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

:biden-the-thing: Hmm, the leftists are talking about violence. Could they be discussing everyday violence directly or indirectly effected by the state? :biden-rember: No, it's the leftists who are violent!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I hadn't considered that we're "violent" partly because we talk about state and institutional violence a lot and that makes this even funnier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It's like the liberal hand wringing of "talking about racism keeps racism alive" but computerized :policing-brain:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

that you can cry

keep this typo because the methodological and philosophical faults in this study make me want to cry