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Mozilla is adding tab grouping, vertical tabs, profile management, and local AI features to Firefox (connect.mozilla.org)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (7 children)

That's all fine and good but Firefox on Android is currently in a sorry state. No per-site process isolation, buggy, can't keep tabs open, slow, choppy, drains battery. Had to uninstall it on my brand new Galaxy S24+ and my Pixel 6 Pro because it was draining so much battery. When are you going to finally stop ignoring Firefox Android, Mozilla?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago

I've been using it for at least a decade now and haven't encountered any of the issues you mention.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've used it exclusively for a long time and haven't experienced any of this

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, same. This is bonkers to me. I have dozens of tabs open on my Pixel 7 and my battery still lasts all day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Well here's the drain I was talking about at least. 18% in less than an hour and thirty minutes of use for a web browser isn't normal. In an hour of use a Chromium browser only drains 6-7 ish % for me. This has been an issue for I guess the past month or so? It drove me crazy so I had to uninstall. And it's not just me either, there are tons of posts from people with the same problem on Reddit. If you don't have problems, good for you I guess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's not what that means. That means out of all the battery drain you've had since the last charge, Firefox was only 18% of that. For example if your phone was fully charged 3 hours ago and you dropped 20% then it would've been only 18% of that 20% battery drop. It's really confusing the way Android shows battery usage now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Well that was 18% of 90% so still awful drain regardless.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (3 children)

slow, choppy, drains battery

Sounds like you don't have an adblocker.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Nope. He's right. There are similar threads on reddit too every single week about the mobile version. It's simply bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

And just like there, a bunch of people here squinting and saying "huh what are you talking about it works great?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Maybe some issue with rendering on specific hardware...?

[–] Eyck_of_denesle 2 points 2 months ago

Maybe. It feels slower than it's open source forks which feel a bit slower than chromium alternatives. And the group tabbing is so bad and no process isolation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

He mentioned a a Pixel, but I'm running it on Pixel with no problems whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I ran Firefox Android with uBo and AdGuardDNS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I heavily use Firefox for Android on multiple devices since many years. It HAS annoying bugs. The most annoying for me is the tab view keeps forgetting the last tab you were on, when for example closing a tab from tab view or moving between tabs by swiping the address bar.

I think every person's bugs depends on how they use the software.

edit: quick word order fix.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm experiencing a similar issue on my phone and I'm using ublock, it is draining the battery very fast and making the phone hot.

I wonder if there is a good alternative/degoogled chrome for Android?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

There is this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Idk, it seems to work fine on my old, crappy Moto G, and it also seems to work fine so far on my new Pixel 8 (just bought it recently).

Maybe Chrome is a little faster, idk, I don't use it much, but Firefox is completely fine.

Then again, maybe my standards are lower. I just want it to browse the web, and it does that pretty well. The ad-blocker is an absolutely killer feature which is why I don't use Chrome, so maybe I'm willing to put up with worse performance. But it seems plenty smooth to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

This is the big thing for me. Any speed gains I might get from Chrome are entirely wiped out by how much the web browsing experience is dragged to a crawl by ads and spyware.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I use it on a Pixel 7 Pro. Can't say I have the same issues.
I also have a notorious problem with too many tabs (I am beyond 99)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Agreed, there a two years bug still open on Firefox just refusing to load pages.

I have to force quit Firefox multiple tones a day and there are new bugs popping up on the tab picker.

Its hard to go back to chrome and lose addons. I need u block especially on mobile.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Im having a great experience on samsung internet with adguard and blokada 5 (on a pixel 7 if it's relevant)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Same. I had to uninstall due to the battery drain issues. Pixel 6 Pro. Battery life is not something I am willing to compromise on.