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Cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/20086798


During 2013–2017, casualty rates per 100 million miles were 5.16 (95% CI 4.92 to 5.42) for E- HE vehicles and 2.40 (95%CI 2.38 to 2.41) for ICE vehicles, indicating that collisions were twice as likely (RR 2.15; 95% CI 2.05 to 2.26) with E-HE vehicles. Poisson regression found no evidence that E-HE vehicles were more dangerous in rural environments (RR 0.91; 95% CI 0.74 to 1.11); but strong evidence that E-HE vehicles were three times more dangerous than ICE vehicles in urban environments (RR 2.97; 95% CI 2.41 to 3.7). Sensitivity analyses of missing data support main findings.


  • "Pedestrian safety on the road to net zero: cross-sectional study of collisions with electric and hybrid-electric cars in Great Britain". Phil J Edwards, Siobhan Moore, Craig Higgins. 2024-05-21. J Epidemiol Community Health.
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[–] Technus 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is why I want an electric car that makes a jet turbine noise like the cars do in sci-fi movies.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

EVs being quieter than ICE cars is a blessing imho. I'm not completely against having them emit additional sound for safety but please let it still be quieter than an ICE.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Anecdotally, I've heard some newer EVs emit a sort of whirring sound when they are moving slowly to alert pedestrians.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s mandatory in the US but they all make various weird noises that don’t sound like cars.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Note that is 2016.

I have a Hybrid built before 2016 that plays no noise. We are out there... lurking, sneaking, ready to pounce.

[–] Technus 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have heard this as well. IMO it's much too quiet still. I want like, an actual jet engine whine but at maybe 65-70 decibels.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No thanks, electric vehicles being quiet is a bonus.

Now if they had the forward sensors made a moderate lebel honking noise when a potential collision with a oedestrian is detected, that would be great.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No thanks, electric vehicles being quiet is a bonus.

Now if they had the forward sensors made a moderate lebel honking noise when a potential collision with a oedestrian is detected, that would be great.

Personally, I'm not bothered by the sounds that EVs emit at slow speeds (the minimum sound is required by the NHTSA) — I think they even sound kind of cool. I do agree that collision detection is also useful. I would argue for a combination of mulitple safety systems. That being said, I do completely understand the noise pollution concerns of vehicles; however, given that the sounds are only emited at very low speeds — IIUC, these sounds are intended match the sound pressure generated by a vehicle travelling at 30kmph — it shouldn't be too much of a problem; I believe that it is worth the benefit.