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Crime (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Bush Jr should have been convicted for mass murder. Obama should have been convicted for drone strikes.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I’m not disagreeing with you, but at least those awful actions are plausibly covered as a presidential act made in the country’s interests. I’m not saying they were good for the US, just that they could argue that was the process.

Trump’s shit is all self-serving and against the interests of the United States.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

presidential act made in the country’s interests.

If your country's interests require committing mass murder (like Bush Jr or Obama did), then your country is an awful evil place.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I cannot disagree with you there!

That’s mostly what I meant by this sentence:

I’m not saying they were good for the US, just that they could argue that was the process.

Even if they make the worst, most destructive decisions that most of their constituents disagree with, it’s still a presidential act. I assume they can’t be charged in the US. Might be different in an international court, but I think we refuse to recognize their authority or something, because U-S-A! U-S-A!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trump increased drone strikes 432%, so same there.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

All ex American presidents in jail for war crimes?

Don't threaten us with a good time

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I agree, but apparently presidents are immune from prosecution for anything done in office. I really hope that can get overturned, but it's the current state of the law.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Yeah, we know. That has no bearing on this case.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Trump and Clinton raped women. Probably not the only presidents.

Edit: I'm not talking about Lewinsky. See my comment below.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Rape is bad. Mass murder is much worse.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Starving teens of millions is OK though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trump raped. Clinton just used his positions of power to make him think he was a player. Very, very significant distinction.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Clinton's sexual misconduct extends far beyond Monica Lewinski.

Juanita Broaddrick accused Clinton of raping her in 1978; Leslie Millwee accused Clinton of sexually assaulting her in 1980; Paula Jones accused Clinton of exposing himself to her in 1991 as well as sexually harassing her; and Kathleen Willey accused Clinton of groping her without her consent in 1993. The Jones allegations became public in 1994, during Clinton's first term as president, while Willey's and Broaddrick's accusations became public in 1999, toward the end of Clinton's second term. Millwee made her accusations in 2016.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'd be happy to lock both of them up. We know they were both buddies with Epstine. Fuck them both.