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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

typical. the conservative editorialises the title

Police officer dies after attack at anti-Islam rally in Germany

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

@breadsmasher @Kaboom

A prominent government official in #France, #ChristianLindner, confirmed that this was an Islamic terror attack:

> Finance Minister Christian Lindner told German daily Bild that the death of the police officer “moves me deeply and makes me angry about what is happening in our country.”
>
> “We must defend ourselves against Islamist terrorism with determination, and we will also strengthen the security authorities financially,” Lindner says.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/02/german-policeman-stabbed-rally-dies/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Those are two different sentences. One is that attack makes him sad, the other one is that Germany needs to protect itself against terrorism. The idea that this implies this was a islamist attack is highly speculative.

The certainty of which is currently unsupported by the fact that the very next sentence in the article is

Nancy Faeser, the interior minister, on Friday called for a thorough investigation into the attack. “If the investigations reveal an Islamist motive, this would be a further confirmation of the great danger posed by Islamist acts of violence,” she said.

The german interior minister being a mixture of Homeland security and the DOJ. So shouldn't we rather take her comment at value than the two sentences from the finance minister?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@dont_lemmee_down That's a pretty creative take, I must admit! However you're right, #NancyFaeser is closer to the situation and probably knows more about it.

However, if nobody is thinking or suspecting that this is or might be an Islamic terrorist attack, why even bring that up? Especially knowing this these types of instances inflame and provoke the far right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

We'll it is brought up because it was an anti-Islam protest. Same as if this was an attack on anti-right protest, the question might be asked if this was a right wing attack.

Sadly some parties (like the CDU) have turned more and more towards the right AfD, so this might not be unintentional; with the FDP polling badly as ever and elections on Sunday.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Christian Lindner isn't a French government official, he's the German finance minister.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago

@FooBarrington Yes, thanks for the correction. I thought I had edited the post.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wasn’t disputing the claim. I am stating the title has been changed from the article. Bad form.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago

@breadsmasher I see, fair enough.

I do agree as well that it's negative framing, although it's not necessarily misleading.