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[–] [email protected] 251 points 1 year ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is the 50s, I think it'd be pretty easy to draw a line from casual racism to white supremacists. A key difference this time is that it's not just Germans led by one insane man, it's instead a bunch of redneck prices and conspiracy theorists.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Before the US got involved in WWII, there was a giant Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There was a lot more than that. There were Nazi sympathizers, and saboteurs, and those who plotted to overthrow the US government. People like Father Charles Coughlin reading Goebbels’ propaganda on the radio to millions of listeners and forming an anti-government militia, and legislators like US Senator Ernest Lundeen working directly with Nazis and reading speeches literally written by them.

Highly recommend Rachel Maddow’s Ultra podcast if you want to say holy shit every few minutes.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they are the same picture

the og nazis were absolutely cooked full on conspiracy theorists, some of them were into occult shit and spend significant resources on that

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

On October 22, he was punched in the face after delivering a radio talk in New Orleans. On the night before the election, he was arrested for disturbing the peace, reviling the police, and using obscene language after attacking Leche on statewide radio.

ha, you can't trick me, he's just time-traveling Richard Spencer

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s easy, people still wave the Confederate flag and that happened 90 years before the 1950’s.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ironically, the confederate worship started in the 50’s and 60’s during the civil rights era. It was basically a rebellion against the civil rights movement, and an attempt to intimidate black people back into silence. Like “oh you want to use the same bathroom as us now? Well you can’t stop us from erecting this statue of a confederate general, to constantly remind you where you came from.” So depending on when exactly they came from in the 50’s, the confederate stuff may also be a surprise.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I presume you're not talking about Russia? You're going to have a hard time showing them those Nazis.

A person from 1950s will just be super confused when you say it because they're going to ask you what country is Nazi. If you say the US they'll just be confused further.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Who are these nazis"

"Anyone that doesn't have the same political beliefs as me!"

"...I see"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This denial is worse than any vulgar insult.

We're talking about violent bigots. People responsible for mob violence against democracy, and state violence against women and minorities. Stop fucking pretending we 'just don't like it' when you try to make us less than human.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I doubt that someone that actually lived through WW2 would agree on that

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Show them footage of January 6th.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They would view that as a good thing. Imagine if Germans did the same thing when Hitler took power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think that wouldn't be too hard. He would just believe that they never left... which would be true

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

I mean by modern standards, almost everyday in the 1950s was a Nazi.