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I'm open to your, obviously, well researched factual response to who is a more progressive President.
So you make a ridiculous claim, get called on it, and then demand the other person prove you're wrong?
The way this works is you prove your own claim before you demand others refute it.
Why would they put the time in if you won't?
Like, you need to realize you're asking someone to explain something for your benefit. If the other person just stops replying, you lose because you didn't learn anything
At least ask politely dawg...
There are many things, but I think that H.R. 8404, the Respect for Marriage Act and the fact that he didn't just sign it into law, he had a major event as a signing ceremony on the White House lawn to highlight it, is a great example of the kind of President he has been.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/12/13/remarks-by-president-biden-and-vice-president-harris-at-signing-of-h-r-8404-the-respect-for-marriage-act/
So...
HR means it's a bill that started in the House...
And Biden has been very open the last four years about how a politicians view is their view and he can't even change someone's if they belong to his own party.
So, and I'm just making sure here, you think Joe Biden is so progressive because he checks notes didn't veto it?
And instead he threw a big event and took credit for others peoples work?
C'mon man, was that really the best you found?
He didn't take credit, he actually detailed a lot of the credit due in his speech. But yes, it is the fact that he made a big deal about a progressive social issue that is an example of being more progressive than his predecessors. If you are looking for progressive things done without congressional action, you're not going to find any, ever. That's just not how our government works.
Oh is this one of those things where a Biden supporter tries to convince people that.
The president is completely powerless
trump becoming president would be terrible, so we have to vote Biden
Cuz buddy, not being trump is pretty much the only reason people are voting Biden, because 1 is bullshit
But we'd have a lot better chance beating trump with a president whose ambitions are higher than not dying in office.
Not powerless, but the fear of Trump (IMO a founded fear) is that he would abuse the office and be permitted to do so by his party members in Congress. I understand that people want Biden to do the same thing (for a real and good cause) but that would also be the end of American democracy.
He is doing the same thing...
He's getting sued by the ACLU for illegal border policy, and breaking US and international law by supplying munitions for Israel's genocide...
Which is the whole point:
If the most popular reason to vote Joe is he's not trump, then Joe needs to stop fucking breaking serious laws, especially when he's doing it for things only republicans want
Shits not complicated, I hope some of this making sens.