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tweet in which jon points out the obvious and libs get mad

excerpt from a Libbrainworms:

Jon gives his best impression of a 14 year old tankie in this video.

The following is true simultaneously:

  1. It is appropriate to critique US foreign policy, it's actually necessary in a free society.
  2. Some bad actions are worse than others. Iraq wasn't annexed into the 51st state, as opposed to Crimea, Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia.
  3. Not all foreign policy decisions are zero sum, it's possible for both parties to derive a benefit from an agreement (US and Philippines for example).

what a great deal

amerikkka i receive Military bases and access to your natural resources

you philippines-cool received: a US backed dictatorship

  1. The world does not revolve around the US, people in the Kremlin have agency.
  2. The Russian invasion of Ukraine and PRC threats of a Taiwan invasion are not about US foreign policy, they are a response to internal Russian and PRC pressures.
  3. Not every policy decision is based on trade and natural resources, those some of the variables in a long list of strategic considerations.
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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, I'm kinda surprised Jon doesn't even point out the obvious provocation of the prospect of Ukraine joining a hostile anti-Russian military alliance that would put ~~hypersonic~~ nuclear missiles 5 minutes from Moscow. Like, literally right on the Russian border.

Uh -- let's entertain a hypothetical in which one of the US's neighboring countries decided to join a hostile military alliance that put nukes 5 minutes off the US coast. Oh right, that happened! field-baseball We responded by invading, trying to assassinate their democratically elected president, and then we blockeded, sanctioned and starved them for generations.

Why not point out that Putin is literally doing what any US president would do, except, like... not nearly as barbaric?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Small nitpick: the US has failed repeatedly and spectacularly at developing hypersonic missile tech.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

lmao its going about as well as f35 development