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Microsoft’s AI boss thinks it’s perfectly OK to steal content if it’s on the open web (www.theverge.com)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

You cant steal data. violating copyright (Which ai training does not do) is not theft.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

violating copywright (Which ai training does not do) I would say that's still very much up for debate, legally and morally

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At the risk of being pedantic, I should point out that morality doesn't come into the question. Copyright is a matter of law, and nothing else. Personally, I don't consider it a legitimate institution; the immorality is how companies wield it like a cudgel to entrench their control over culture.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

copyright is a matter of law, and nothing else

This assertion dismisses the ethical considerations often intertwined with legal principles. Laws (including copyright laws) are influenced by moral and ethical values, and there are often huge books on theories about the validity of certain things which serve as the starting point of collections of laws.

the immorality is how companies wield it like a cudgel to entrench their control over culture

While some companies do exploit copyright laws, not all companies use it in this way and whether it brings more harm than good is a point of discussion. But it can’t be generalized.

This completely overlooks the positive aspects of copyright as well, such as protecting the rights of individual creators and ensuring they can earn something from their own work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Whether or not copyright law has been violated is not a question of morality.

This assertion dismisses the ethical considerations often intertwined with legal principles.

No, that's stupid. Copyright is a purely legal framework. That's it, end of story. If you still don't understand, reread the entire discussion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Exactly. Violation of copyright may be an ethical or unethical act, but that doesn't change the fact that copyright law was violated.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

There is no moral issue.