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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Isn't LOTR "Christian", somehow? Maybe I'm thinking of C.S. Lewis 🤔

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah Narnia was straight up unmistakable Christian allegory. I believe J.R.R. (C.S.'s drinking buddy) always insisted that LOTR was not meant to be taken in that way, or like when people hypothesized that Sauron was Hitler and so on.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's not really anything about Sauron that is a critique of Hitler or fascism specifically. I think Sauron, like Smaug, was a warning against human greed, for money or for power.

See how the hobbits are like the antithesis of Smaug and Sauron, and each time caused their ultimate downfall.

"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

@FaeDrifter @Smatt I read Tolkein's books more in the light of his experience serving on the front in WW1. There's this terrible thing that you have to leave your cozy, safe home to do, and it damages you so much that even after "victory", you can never really go back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

People with strong beliefs are often not exactly rational or analytical.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You're thinking of CS Lewis. Now imagine if pre-early teen me asking this person about Neuromancer by Gibson. Their head would have exploded. One saving grace about my suburban bedroom town is that we had a good public library. If I wanted the good stuff, they either had it or could get it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

@cheese_greater @Banzai51 LOTR isn't very Christian; Tolkein was Professor of Anglo-Saxon at Oxford, at a time when Old English studies were focussing more on the pagan elements that they thought were more "pure" and corrupted by the arrival of Christianity.

C.S. Lewis's books were allegorical Christian (very high church), but fundamentalists don't go for that kind of thing; for them, Jesus has to be Jesus, not an anthropomorphic lion inspired by the story of the crucifixion.