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[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The vast majority of Hareidi Jews are Zionist

So as a larger community, they're hypocritical and support the genocide in Gaza.

But some fringe members are actually non-violent and against the genocide of their neighbors?

That makes sense.

But the other person just claimed the opposite:

Most ultra-orthodox Jews are actually anti-zionists

Which is what confused me.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Your definition of Zionism is almost certainly not what the word means in Israel

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I mean, probably, yeah that's a safe bet.

But I meant you replied to me and said one thing, and someone else replied to me saying the exact opposite.

But yeah, you seem to know what you're talking about and I was curious. So thanks for answering my questions.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Yes aleph posted links to survey data below that shows most Hareidi Jews do not consider themselves "somewhat" or "very" Zionist. Hence that statement. I was basing my statement on government participation. Hareidi Jews vote at or above national voting rates, and their parties (Shas and UTJ) are members of the governing coalition. Anti-Zionist parties (such as Ra'am) would never be willing to join a ruling coalition.

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