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Sorry if this is not the proper community for this question. Please let me know if I should post this question elsewhere.

So like, I'm not trying to be hyperbolic or jump on some conspiracy theory crap, but this seems like very troubling news to me. My entire life, I've been under the impression that no one is technically/officially above the law in the US, especially the president. I thought that was a hard consensus among Americans regardless of party. Now, SCOTUS just made the POTUS immune to criminal liability.

The president can personally violate any law without legal consequences. They also already have the ability to pardon anyone else for federal violations. The POTUS can literally threaten anyone now. They can assassinate anyone. They can order anyone to assassinate anyone, then pardon them. It may even grant complete immunity from state laws because if anyone tries to hold the POTUS accountable, then they can be assassinated too. This is some Putin-level dictator stuff.

I feel like this is unbelievable and acknowledge that I may be wayyy off. Am I misunderstanding something?? Do I need to calm down?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'm deeply concerned about that.
I'm more concerned that there's literally no one in the streets over it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I’m more concerned that there’s literally no one in the streets over it.

Every social media except for the fascist safe-spaces will censor and ban people advocating for violence even in self-defense, including this one. On top of that, the FBI continues to actively infiltrate and suppress left-wing protest movements. Is it any wonder that the public's ability to organize against fascism has been effectively neutered?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I don't disagree at all, and in fact I think those are a great few reasons why we're not organizing.
But, I feel like right now, all it would take was knowing other people were there and more people would start to show up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We should digitally tar and feather anyone who tries to suppress advocating for violence. Arming yourself is self-defense at this point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Arming yourself is a far cry from actively doing violence. Go buy a gun, take classes, get hours in at the range to practice your aim. Be ready when the time comes. Don't make the time come.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Bring your gun to protests. Fire on the police if they try to disable you.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Possibly the calm before the storm. I'm worried that it won't be protests that comes next, but armed violence. But who knows, Americans have been made docile and apathetic as fuck. Even if they protested and took to the streets, it's barely had an impact in the last 20 years. Look at the explosive reaction after George Floyd and all the resulted from that was some minor reform in some places.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Then maybe it is time to stop being peaceful about it. It obviously doesn't work, so maybe they'll listen if we start breaking shit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Breaking shit is the only thing that has ever worked.

Even the civil rights movement, which The Powers That Be try to credit "nonviolent" MLK with in retrospect, only actually succeeded because the alternative was Malcolm X and The Powers That Be fucking knew it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Part of the problem there is that those streets aren't well kept to be used as protest avenues.

Plus they're so spread out a national effort is VERY hard to get off the ground.

The french are so known for protests mostly because they have a highly centralized transit system that malcontents can easily use to gather in the biggest city that's also the capitol and also, especially recently, decently pedestrianized.