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No, basically nobody in the US on either side has any interest in a red/brown alliance unless they're extremely weird and brainwormed like the PatSocs who everyone hates. Many ancaps are harmless idiots who are mostly dangerous to themselves because they're constantly doing stupid shit like getting run out of town by bear attacks they caused or getting themselves killed by drug cartels. But many of them are cryptofascists who correctly understand that the real aim of the ideology is to create an ethnostate where the proletariat have no rights whatsoever and landowners have absolute authority.
As for Ukraine, most of those on the right either only oppose it because Biden's in charge and will flip as soon as it's their guy doing it, or they just want to focus on China instead. There's little to be gained from cooperating, and much to lose from associating with them because they're shitty people who alienate actual comrades.
Generally it's just not really a thing. Read Blackshirts and Reds.
I dont think ancaps want to create ethnostate (although they might anyways). That implies they care about other people of their own race which I doubt.
A lot of them do. "Anarcho-Capitalism" is a completely non-nonsensical idea that requires that you don't understand anarchism and you also don't understand capitalism. It's adherents have an enormous variety of brainworms because they're just kind of extending American hyper-individualism to it's illogical extreme based on whatever poorly thought out whims seize them.
Like I said there's two camps, the more innocent gullible ones and the cryptofascists who know what they're doing and use the language as a cover to make their ideas more palatable, and AFAIK every major figure falls into the second camp. The point of it is to pipeline people to the right. The conditions that anarcho-capitalism advocates for are ideal for creating an ethnostate, and many of the tactics and laws used to combat racism including sit-ins and the Civil Rights Act are considered "acts of aggression" against property owners by the "logic" of anarcho-capitalism, and may be answered with violence.
Here's Hans Hermann Hoppe, from Wikipedia:
And here's Murray Rothbard, who first coined the term anarcho-capitalism
As you can see, the intellectuals behind the ideology (if you can call it that, "cult" is more accurate) fully understand what it is they're trying to do. It is a scheme to sugarcoat fascist ideology and tie it into the language of liberalism. It starts by doing things to attack the rights of minorities and then playing the "I'm not touching you" card and when people call bullshit they play the "I'd be fine if they kept it to themselves but now they're shoving it down our throats" card. The "libertarian“ to fascist pipeline is real, though some people don't realize they're in it.