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how bad is PCF? (en.wikipedia.org)

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I know they're DSA who holding music festival, but how bad is it exactly? Now that they won, I'm curious what their stance is on the issues that will be discussed at CPs (Russia, China, North Korea, etc.)?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Since they're a socdem party that abandoned communism decades ago, they have a lot of brainworms concerning AES:

position on the soviet union

La révélation des crimes du stalinisme, en 1956, ébranle la confiance profonde dans l’URSS et crée bien des déchirures.

translation:

The revelation of the crimes of stalinism, in 1956, shook the deep confidence in the USSR and create much fractures.

source: L'histoire du PCF (story of the French Communist Party)

position on china

Ce qui se passe en Chine depuis la révolution Maoïste et sa mise en œuvre par le PCC ,n'a rien de commun avec notre conception du communisme. [...] les travailleurs chinois n'ai pas leurs mots à dire sur le fonctionnement de leurs entreprises, [...] la population ne puissent pas manifester ces désaccords avec la politique suivi par le gouvernement [...] répression exercer sur les ouïgours et les opposants au régime [...] son soutien à Poutine . Tout cela fait que nous considérons que le PCC et le gouvernement Chinois n'a rien de commun avec le Communisme que le PCF promeut et n'a de Communisme que le nom.

translation:

What has been happening in China since the Maoist revolution and it's implementation by the CPC, has nothing in common with our conception of communism. [...] the Chinese workers don't have a word in the functioning of their enterprises, [...] the population can't protest it's disagreements with the politics followed by the government [...] repression exerted on the Uyghurs and opponents to the regime [...] it's support to Poutine. For all that we consider that the CPC and Chinese government has nothing in common with the communism that the FCP promotes and has of communist only the name.

source: Notre position concernant le Parti communiste Chinois

But on the Ukraine war for example, while they have the classical brainworms of Putin invading because he's evil and whatnot, they at least have the correct position of pushing for making peace as soon as possible instead of the usual keep sending weapons or even our own army:

Après tant de sang versé, cette folie guerrière doit être stoppée et la Paix mise à l'ordre du jour de toutes les discussions ! [...] La Paix et le progrès social en Europe sont intimement liés. Car la guerre est une raison de plus, utilisée par les classes dirigeantes, pour imposer des politiques d'austérité [...] C'est pourquoi refusons, contrairement à d'autres, d'inscrire cette guerre dans un temps long. Nous refusons de suivre les appels de ceux qui veulent nous entraîner dans une guerre contre la Russie au risque de plonger l'Europe dans le chaos d'une guerre mondiale. Nous appelons la France à choisir le camp de la paix et à retrouver une diplomatie indépendante et constructive en arrêtant de s'aligner systématiquement sur l'OTAN et les Etats-Unis.

translation:

After so much blood spiled, this murderous folly must be stopped and peace put to the order of the day of all the discutions! [...] The peace and social progress in Europe are intimately related. Because war is one more excuse, used by the ruling class, to impose austerity politics [...] This is why we refuse, unlike others, to iscribe this war in a long time. We refuse to follow the calls of those who want to pull us in a war against Russia at the risk of plunging Europe in the chaos of a world war. We call France to choose the camp of peace and to find an independent and constructive diplomacy by stopping to systematically align with NATO and the United States.

source: Ukraine : Agir pour la Paix, en priorité (Fabien Roussel)

They are also calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, condemn Israel and the blockade on Cuba. There are also genuine comrades who cling onto the party ina (vain in my opinion) attempt to correct it's revisionism and go back to Marxism.

Not the worst soccdem party basically.

If you want a genuenly communist(ML) party, the best I've found is the PRCF (Pôle de Renaissance Communiste en France = Pole for Communist Rebirth in France).