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Article summary, Dems are worried they may lose the election. As a solution the subtly hint at maybe their only viable candidate should consider that.
It isn't even a story at this point, why keep it alive? Clicks? Do better media.
https://infosec.exchange/@[email protected]/112764288543910527
i mean, i'm still deeply alarmed about the inadequacy of Joe Biden as a candidate. And I don't work in media. I just spent the weekend with moderate relatives that are ready to stay home instead of voting in November because they don't like either choice, and the debate solidified that position. Why keep it alive? Because this is maybe the only chance Dems have to actually win this election, and we're watching them slowly piss it away.
I would like a jelly bean tree, in the mean time I'll stick with what I can get.
Ok, I'll bite. Name his inadequacies. I will not accept his debate performance as an answer. Because, while it was horrible, he has had plenty of excellent speeches before and after. For example one of the best SOTUs I have heard in my lifetime (I'm old) and his NATO address.
For reference. Listen to the content.
NATO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQTY7nDi10I
SOTU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al7ont2noYA
And to contrast and if you don't mind losing brain cells. Trump Miami. Showed up an hour late. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cg-oo27ny4
Ok, I'll bite back. The election is going to swing on low-information voters in a handful of states. Coyotino just told you about people who could sway the vote to keep Trump out, but are planning to STAY HOME. They're going to swing us into fascism.
Biden's inadequacies:
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We need all eligible voters to show up and stop Trump. We need a Congress that will outlaw fascist actions rather than further enabling them.
We need something to spark the apathetic potential voters to act to save Democracy because the risk is too great and right now the low-info folks aren't hearing anything new.
So your comment about moderates not voting because.... they do not like either and fascism and Project 2025 are not compelling augments? Reminds me of a friend who told me that he was not voting because it doesn't matter to him. And them Trump tariffs hurt his business.
Ok your list
#1 You do not think he is winning #2 You do not believe he is capable of responding to Project 2025 because of his debate performance. #3 You've got an ageist argument and then connect that to his policy position on escalation management. #4 After a great speech you come away with not feeling good about superficial characteristics #5 You do not think he is winning
"We need something to spark the apathetic potential voters to act to save Democracy because the risk is too great and right now the low-info folks aren’t hearing anything new."
I am here arguing for the most viable option. Let's all do our best to help.
I do not agree with everything he has done but his actions have proven to me that he has been an excellent president and is a good person. I also believe he is the only viable candidate we have. Is he old and does he seem old, yes. Will he be able to lead a good and effective administration, he has and he will.
Do you think the Biden administration has been a good one and do you think a future Biden administration will be a good one?
I don't think you read what I wrote.
Look: The polls and pundits tell me a future Biden administration will only exist in our dreams, so the only choice is to find someone else or let Trump win.
I was thinking we were in a thread that started with:
I don't want to argue, I mean I admit I did but that's not really want I was intending. I think you have a valid point of view but I do not see it the way you do.
I see what you are saying and I appreciate that we are both stating our positions. I;m grateful we have a place where we can express ourselves.
You are correct that the thread started that way. I was just saying that I then reframed that as low-info voters who may or may not be moderate. Someone in another thread had talked about some leftists in California who were going t skip voting as a protest to the war in Israel -- which won't matter because California is not up for grabs.
FWIW, I watched Biden's press conference and was once again amazed as Biden reminded us of all the things he's done. He's been a great statesman and exactly the kind of world leader I want our President to be, and it baffles me that so much of the population want to pick a petty know-nothing bully like Trump.