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Leftists who don’t like Biden don’t want to see him in office again, so they don’t want to vote for him, or they want to withhold their vote until he changes course. Seems simple enough.

But that’s not how politics works.

So announcing that you'll vote for him no matter what he does will make him change course? Is that how politics works?

Never, in the history of this country, has there been a president who hasn’t engaged in what the left would regard as unforgivable crimes. This is the nature of presidents, and politicians in general. If you, like me, are on the far left, you should never fully trust or have faith in any elected official.

But when I look at the Biden administration, I see a group of people who can be bullied in a leftist direction on some policy priorities.

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Can anyone today truly argue that the world wasn’t drastically changed by Gore’s loss in 2000? Even if you don’t accept the argument that Nader’s candidacy is what lost Gore the election, how can you argue that the world wouldn’t have been at least a little better if all of those Nader votes had gone to Gore and put the Dems over the top?

Democrats have held the presidency 50% of the time since 2000.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Didn’t Gore lose because the Republicans literally stole ballot boxes in Florida or some shit?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Gore lost because he refused to fight even though he won the election.

Clinton lost because the Democrats refused to abolish the electoral college in the intervening years.

Biden will lose (among many other reasons) because he's refusing to "defend democracy" or whatever he said his must-pass (didn't-pass) voting reform bill was supposed to be.

They only care about lecturing people who won't vote for them, but they won't do anything for those votes and they won't do anything with those votes.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

The most frustrating thing to me is that it’s not like they can’t do anything. When it comes to, say, orchestrating the primaries candidates to prevent Bernie from winning, they are incredibly efficient and ruthless. They just refuse to do anything about the slide into fascism

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

brooks brothers riot, yeah

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Yup that wad another example of the Republicans successfully employing the "what the fuck are you gonna do about it" method of politics.

It's all very complicated and not just the exact same as high-school drama bullshit.