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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (6 children)

There will be assassination attempts on Biden as a result of this event. When they happen, how would you want 'the right' to react?

Let's take the high road.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent 89 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck the high road.

One party is insisting on protecting the legacy of this country and democracy.

The other openly has plans to destroy democracy and are acting on them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The fuck the high road mentality is what likely motivated the shooter and got us into this mess.

There is no reason to escalate what is already a tense political situation.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent 73 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Shit is already escalated

We had a violent fucking insurrection in 2020. The fallout is a corrupt supreme court saying that was legal because it was an official act

Shit is already fucked. Either bury your head in the sand and hope the Nazis will respect your integrity or act

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I will act through engagement.

When you use escalatory language you just just make the Nazis justify their actions by the response they receive.

In another tense moment in American history, the Civil rights movement of the 1960s, MLK was successful due to not being militant. Peaceful action and the strong overreaction of those against civil rights elicited sympathy in those not involved.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent 56 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Martin Luther King was successful in large part because of the acts of people like Malcolm X. Talk softly but point at the person with a big stick

When we are dealing with good faith actors Speak

When we are dealing with violent insurrectionists who have never won a popular vote and are actively talking about how they will remove the ability to ever speak again?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

Don’t forget the impact of the Black Panthers. MLK gets the press today because the power doesn’t want people to get the right idea.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated. While having other successes, he was unable to carry out the Poor People’s Campaign. Was violence successful in removing the voice of Martin Luther King Jr.?

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This implies that how we react to this will have any bearing whatsoever on how the right will treat us. It won't. They will be as mean to us as they can physically manage, regardless of how we act, because they hate us.

You Go High, We Go Low.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Yes although I'm more troubled by what we do *to ourselves* when we imply that sometimes political assassination is ok. On the left, integrity matters not because the opponents might one day be swayed by it but because without it we have already become what we fight against.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago

Hah, yeah, that's certainly going to make the right react with solemnity and respect.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago

Haven’t we learned over the last 25 years that the high road doesn’t work?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

Taking the high road makes you feel better about yourself. It doesn't win a fight with someone playing dirty.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Guaranteed they don’t want Kamala though