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So wait. If I own a factory for instance and I am the CEO or owner or whatnot. I hire few people who are responsible in some parts of the factory. They hire people to do the everyday stuff, maintenance, IT, whatnot.
Then someone torches the factory down during night shift and someone dies. They go to jail. And everyone above them go to jail because they happened to hire that person?
Nah fuck that.
Sure, if you don't vet the people well enough and let someone who is not qualified do something and an accident happens and whatnot. Then the person who hired the person should be held accountable.
I hope you can comprehend there is a massive difference between an act of arson out of everyone’s involved control, vs a negligently trained employee who was doing something they shouldn’t. This becomes a cyclical argument, something happened, so they couldn’t have been trained properly, so who trained them, and who was on duty supervision that day. Yadda yadda yadda etc.
You start there, and see where the training from above failed to allow an untrained person do something unsupervised. If it turned out buddy was having a smoke and sparked a fire, well… that’s why you investigate and see that while he’s an idiot, it’s still a failure on management to train the person to not smoke in certain areas…
No one wants to accept responsibility for their failures, if a person under you failed, ask yourself where you went wrong to allow it to happen.
Now, if the training was the problem, then it is negligence of the person in charge of team (or whomever gives the ok for them to work in that job) and they should be held accountable. But not their boss(es) too.
Their bosses trained them, why weren’t they aware of the dangers of their job that lead to the incident?
No they didn't, or don't have to. I haven't been trained by my boss almost at all, separate people train me on different processes. My boss leads the team, they don't need to know all the details of everyone's job and certainly don't train everyone on everything on what they need to do.
And while the team is their responsibility and what happens in the team immediately reflects on them, that is not the case legally speaking. Internally sure, someone fucks up in the team and maybe the boss gets canned or whatever, but they are not legally responsible of the entire team.
Of course this isn't true if the person the boss hires isn't qualified to do the job and were hired because of money, or for instance if that person is way too overworked or are given inadequate tools to their job properly etc.