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u/ButtigiegMineralMap - originally from r/GenZhou
I’m learning a lot about Marxism recently and this Donetsk and Luhansk situation has made me think more about Seperatists. I’m not pro-taiwan, not pro-HK, not pro-tibet, I’m mostly pro-China, but I don’t have a good understanding of the area and there’s sooo much history in the region. Basically TL;DR, why should I primarily be against these Separatists if I would be pro-Donetsk,Luhansk, thanks. Btw I’ll make it clear I’m not for taiwan or tibet as the title might suggest, that may look confusing

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

u/Professional-Way1833 - originally from r/GenZhou
Here's the thing. You are just making claims.

No evidence.

You ignore what Tibet was like pre-liberation. Not greatly different from the confederate south in terms of slavery.

All your points are standard CIA talking points levelled against the enemies of US empire, and yet you do not reflect at all.

You also do not reflect when reminded about the more oppressive practices of US cops.

And you go on about intangibles like freedom, but IGNORE concrete material gains, like a MASSIVE rise in the standard of living, life expectancy, medical care, education etc.

Freedom to do what? Freedom FROM what?

You insist that Tibetans are oppressed, but your sources are 'trust me bro.'

You make claims of torture and oppression, but you can't back any of them.

You discount infrastructure, but that infrastructure DISPROVES your stance.

To oppress a people, you don't need to build an infrastructure. Simply fail to do so, and they will be oppressed.

You oppress a people to exploit them. To take their land, to exploit their labour.

And yet this is not only NOT being done, vast sums are spent on infrastructure to improve lives.

You do not do that if you want to gain wealth from a people.

That's a loss.

You are just wrong on every level.