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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I must be confused.

Here is my view of the conversation. Let me know where I went wrong.

People saying MBFC is biased. Me saying that that's BS if talking about specific facts checks. Me saying they also offer a bias check for news sources. But that's not a fact check. You reply saying that they have repeatedly gotten claims by the Guardian UK wrong. Me saying that they don't fact check whole articles so your statement is inconsistent with the very nature of the type of fact checking they do. You come back saying you are talking about the bias check for the Guardian. Except that's not what you said in your first comment, is it? You specifically said "failed fact checks of the Guardian UK" which isn't about their overall rating but about specific facts checks. Their fact checking and their media bias checks are two separate functions.

So when you tell me I'm being obtuse it looks to me like either you didn't realize that you complained about one thing while confusing it with another or are trying to gaslight me.

Where did I go wrong?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
  1. Visit https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/
  2. Notice Factual Reporting is “Mixed”
  3. Scroll down to “Failed Fact Checks”
  4. Review.

The website very clearly has a massive centrist, pro-capitalism bias. By picking and choosing what “fact checks” to include, they can tilt the “fact-based reporting” metric in whatever way they choose.

This metric is what is being included by the bot. That is the topic of conversation. If that metric is biased. It very, very, very clearly is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Did you just criticize a fact checking organization by calling it centrist? Are you looking for a more left or right biased fact checker?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

So, I’m guessing you're American. Basically, your country is so fucked up that you call the right wing left wing and you call the far-right right wing. And centrism is like between right wing and far-right. Does that make sense? So when I say it’s centrist, I mean it’s right wing, but not explicitly fascist. Just contributing towards fascism in a “slow and steady” kind of way. You know, classical liberalism, neo-liberal, that kinda stuff.

It’s also very clearly zionist, so calling it centrist was me being a little bit nice.

Left wing is anti-capitalist, right wing is pro-capitalist. Hope that helps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

That clears it up a little. Thanks for explaining what you meant by centrist being right wing.