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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The 1906-22 Liberal-led governments gave the UK progressive taxation, unemployment benefits, the state pension, the first tax-funded healthcare, the end of the primacy of the House of Lords. This was one of the most transformational progressive governments in our country's history and this is partly why they were winning by-elections in working-class seats right up to the start of the First World War.

I think you're overestimating the existence of underlying 'political' causes of the rise of Labour and underestimating the pure 'electoral' factors around the Asquith/Lloyd George split.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Labours rise was more to do with providing a voice for the poor.

IE unions. Prior to unions the majority of poor voters failed to feel they had any control over parliment.

The genral ethos (iE how working class felt) behind the librals was one of the rich gifting to the poor. Not the poor controlling the political spectrum.

This was a huge growth of feeling between the 2 wars. Where the ideas behind socialism started to take hold.

Unfortunately it is impossible to consider the growth of the labour party. Without also considering the effect of the 2 wars timmed directly with that growth. Where a huge feeling of the wealthy using the lives of the poor expanded. (Remember much of what we know about nazi Hermann now. Was not known untill long apart the 2nd war).

So we had 3 to 4 generations coming back from wars they did not see as for themselves.

We see no equivalent change in political motive today. Certainly not from the left. Dispite the negativity towards wealthy leaders growing over the last 20 years.