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No electioneering, no telling people to or not to vote or who to vote for. Interpretating this rule as forbidding critisism of candidates is certainty an interpretation but in the context of an ANARCHIST space it's a bad interpretation.
No bootlicking & that will include being hyper pedantic about people calling politicians, prosecutors, bureaucrats, etc, cops.
Yes, if you're an obnoxious neo-lib you're going to get banned. If you're not obnoxious & have good faith questions you can stay.
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/15032962
Alt text: a screenshot of a microblog post with the text "you walking down an alleyway with a gram of weed in your pocket, who would you rather catch you?" Below are two pictures side by side. One of Kamala Harris and the other of Batman.
She's not a cop anymore. She was the DA of San Francisco in 2004-2011, and she was the Attorney General of California from 2011-2017. She was responsible for prosecuting people, and lead an effort to police black and poor families harder. She also was directly responsible for transgender inmates having their gender-confirming surgeries withheld. Also remember that time she mocked people chanting "schools not jails"?
Which part of that was her being a cop?
Which part of that was ok?
Different argument.
Appreciate the links but that was 7+ years ago. What are her stances now?
She keeps telling us that we should vote for her because of her record as a prosecutor and Attorney General so apparently what she did in those roles is what she thinks is important.
You replied to the wrong person.
The part where she prosecuted poor black parents because their children missed school when they were sick in the hospital?
Cops don't prosecute people. Lawyers do.
Do you have anything of value to contribute to the discussion, or is your sole issue that Kamala Harris has not ever actually served on a police force?
If somehow not serving on a police force makes you a cop then I guess we're all bastards.
And yes, that's really my sole issue. I didn't think it was going to be controversial to point out that she wasn't a cop.
You do understand that we say "ACAB" because it's catchier than "I dislike the so-called justice system that does nothing but destroy lives for the state, and that includes cops, lawyers, prosecutors, etc.", (IDTSCJSTDNBDLFTSATICLPE) right?
I bet you also say things like "You can't call everyone you don't like a nazi, the nazi party ended decades ago!"
I say this with all the kindness in my heart, please log off and go outside.
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What about cops could you possibly dislike that doesn't also apply to a DA and AG who pushed for false convictions and refused medical care to trans prisoners?
Harris isn’t a cop in the same way Trump isn’t a member of the Fascist party. Do you have a problem with people calling Trump a fascist?
Nah, the shit take is being reddit level pedantic in order to bootlick, you know very well what we mean by "{insert shitbag} is a cop"
Kamala "Oink Oink Piggy Piggy Pig Fuck" Harris fucked over trans prisoners, kept prisoners with 'jobs' in past the end of their sentence, & covered for corrupt cops & prosecutors and now calls her carrier progressive.
The truth is the two parties are closer on most issues then people like to think & every dem president in my lifetime has cracked down on brown immigrants to use them as a scapegoat for socialeconomic problems the political class dosen't want to deal with & dems are perfectly down with packing prisons with people who broke bullshit law to use as slave labor, that's pretty fascy in my book.
People who were involved with legalized slavery calling themselves criminal justice reformers get a rise out of me.
No, prosecutors prosecute. Prosecutors are not literally cops (duh), but they are a very important part of the criminal ”justice” system. Cops couldn’t put people away without their help
OK Poindexter does someone need to explain linguistics to you?
And her opposition is a fascist, a felon, a liar, and a seditionist who hero worships dictators.
The choice is clear.
That doesn't make her less of a cop though. I don't even understand your response. You get mad at people trying to push for progress because... Trump is a fascist? I don't know, your argument doesn't make sense.
My choice is easy, because I'm unable to vote due to voter disenfranchisement! But even without that, I'm a chronically ill trans person. I'm unable to get my basic, uncontrolled medication or my HRT because of regressive transphobic and ableist policies that are being made every single day. I don't really care if it's Trump or Harris overseeing the trans people being murdered, unhoused, and forced to go without health care.
Exercise your vote how you wish, but voting is the bare minimum and some of us can't even do it. Go buy a trans person a pizza or a night in a motel if you want to make the world a materially better place.
You're getting a one day ban for electioneering.
enforcing a 'don't talk about voting ever, only encourage not voting' anarchist community is sus af. not voting isn't gonna make the govt disappear. not voting is just laying down and saying 'do with me what you will'. not voting, especially from anarchists, inevitably gives more weight to explicitly fascist votes. i'd like a world without goverment as well, but we aren't gonna get there not voting nor by banning people from anarchist spaces who advocate for slowing the rise of more violent fascism. material conditions, bud.
Yeah... That kind of action does not really say "acting in good faith" or seem like supporting anarchic philosophy.
"Anarchism is when vote"
In some forms, when needed, yes. See: anarcho-syndicalism.
What is contrary to most anarchic philosophy is using power over others to suppress voices that express dissent in good faith. In fact, I can't think of a branch of anarchism where that's not outright contradictory to central tenets of the philosophy.
Yes.
But how does that even resemble the electoral system we have? I don't tell people to vote or not & I don't tell people who to vote for. You all can decided that for yourselves, I'm not your master. The no electioneering rule exist for a few reasons one being to stop drive by comments from people who have zero interest in anarchism from overwhelming people who do & it's not uncommon in anarchist spaces.
Yes totally that one rule in this little corner of Lemmy is totally the driving force behind the rise of fascism.
ok so just being an obvious weak ass troll now. blocking this garbage account and community.
Oh no, please don't do that
This is the same problem that libertyhub has, its sus as hell there too.
I get not wanting straight propaganda or canvassing, but no one is allowed to push back when you say don’t vote? Its just sucks :/
Who said don't vote?
Edit: I don't tell people to or not to vote you're all grown up people that can decided that for yourselves.
A gram of weed would get you a citation at most in SF back then, but most likely some "get that high school shit out of here" comment.
Source: I lived in SF back then and had friends who had nearly that exact experience.
What was their skin color?
Oh OK I'm suppose to just ignore the statistically relevant disproportionate treatment of black people in the injustice system.
Put what back in the deck? What does that mean?
That is sadly a very valid question for SF cops at that time.
https://www.kqed.org/news/10454955/racist-texts-prompt-sfpd-internal-investigation
This didn't come out until several years later, but I doubt racism in the force just suddenly popped up.