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Uyghur "Genocide" is so hardwired to people's brains, how do any of y'all try convince others that they're believing propaganda? (hexbear.net)

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It's really frustrating, I was talking to someone about how successful China has been in de-radicalization of reactionaries. But they responded to this by saying they're only successful because, and I quote "put them all in concentration camps and killed them"

Has anyone here been successful in deprogramming people about this topic? If so any good sources I can use to dissuade them? I tried telling them that the UN report, if you read it, just says that there's concerns about abuse by internment offcials, and there's no evidence of genocide. But when I say this they just dismiss it as if the UN is controlled by the PRC. It's like a religion to liberals to believe anything bad about China and can get really frustrating.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Maybe I'm actually crazy, but there was a time like a year or two ago when it seemed like the US actually gave up all pretenses and admitted it was bullshit? (edit:I should say it later seemed like this may have been reversed). I distinctly remember a collective cathartic sigh on then Twitter that the uyghur slander thing was FINALLY coming to an end. I definitely remember a NED tweet from well before then basically laying claim to supporting sowing extremism in the region, but I could also swear there was a major outlet expose (maybe multiple exposes) months later detailing all the state department bullshit surrounding the situation (e.g. deliberately mistranslating/mislabeling "job centres" to torture camps or something to that effect, and so on)

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they did, the state department said it didn't happen or at least there was no evidence, and then they picked right back up again

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Watch them go right back to it after genociding muslims in gaza for real.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

It seems to have died down in the news (I mean not really — the recent NATO War summit has shifted the anti-China narrative in the media to "China is militarily supporting Russia") but a lot of generic TV slop tries to insert China bad narratives in episodes.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You'd think we'd have a leftist wiki with a page on a subject like this with a sentence about an event like this with citation(s).

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Xinjiang_Vocational_Education_and_Training_Centers Ask and ye shall receive.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I'm surprised not many people posted this. Thanks comrade

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is this a sarcastic comment pointing out we do have one? Because if so hook a brotha up

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Xinjiang_Vocational_Education_and_Training_Centers We do. Prolewiki.

Amazing resource.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Thanks comrade

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Thanks comrade! Killing a lot of brain worms thanks to this resource.