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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

The author calls it JIF. He intended it as Jif because he has butter fingers and like butter brand JIF.

I'm used to hard G though.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And British people made English, but they don't say anything right either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Little ironic.... but ok.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I know he says it’s pronounced “jif”, but I just don’t care. It’s like “gift” without the t

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's be honest here, English does not have that level of consistency. "Women" is pronounced with an "i" for christ sake

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because the a in woman is pronounced the same way the e in women is pronounced...

Probably that was originally introduced by some medieval swinger society, so they could say that they are faithful to their women and technically not be lying about it. When the church figured out they introduced the o as an i thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Because the a in woman is pronounced the same way the e in women is pronounced...

woman = wum-en
women = wim-in

Yeah I'm gonna have to disagree with you there, chief.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No, you're supposed to replace the letter, not add it, so "fin"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh come on, you know what I mean

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Say the word "though" in your head. Then add a "t" to it. Would you really argue that "though" and "thought" are pronounced the same simply because they're the same spelling save for a final "t"?

The easiest "rule" is that the creator can decide how to pronounce and spell it lol. Taking English rules that don't even apply 100% of the time to its own words and trying to hold made-up words to the same standards just sounds silly to me haha

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There are no rules to how new words come into being or how old ones change.

If everyone says a word a certain way with certain meaning, then that's what it is. One person doesn't get to decide.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's more like giant or gin or giraffe.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I always read it as "Jif" then came the correctness police of Reddit and I was bullied into "Gif" by guilt.

And now some 8-40 years later, I feel anything but "Gif" is wrong. Help!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Help!

Absolutely not, I don't say this often but those bullies did the right thing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you pronunce it guilt or juilt? Okay bad question

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

How do you pronounce giraffe? or giant? or gin?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I thought it was at least jood.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Can you really just drop a hard G like that though? Thought that was only okay for them to say

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good thing word coiners don't get full control over word usage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They do though when they are right.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This makes no sense. It stands for "Graphics Interchange Format", do they pronounce it jraphics too?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are so many examples in this thread alone as to why this rule doesn't work. SCUBA: the U is for "underwater" and the A is for "apparatus". We don't pronounce it "SC-uh-B-ahhh". JPEG: The P is for "photographic". We don't pronounce it "JayFeg". LASER: The E is for "emission". We don't pronounce it "Lay-See-R". RADAR: The second A is for "And" (lol). We don't pronounce it "Ray-Day-R".

The easiest "rule" is just the guy who made it up can dictate how they want it spelled and to pronounce. The word is made up anyway, and isn't subject to rules that actual English words have been subjected to for however long the language evolved.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

The guy that came up with with the acronym for unidentified flying object also wrote that it should pronounced you-fo but everyone spells it out because that is less confusing. So there is an example of the creator being ignored.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you pronounce JPEG? Jay-feg?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yep, I take your point

Seems an odd choice in gif's case still, as you can use the starting letter sounds from each word and it doesn't sound weird.

Not the same for jpeg. P by itself doesn't make a ph sound.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

He didn't intend shit. He just wanted to watch the world burn!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He made the format, not English.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ya and in English, we pronounce things like giant, giraffe, gin, etc. with a "j" sound.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Find me a closer English word than "Gift" that uses a J sound for the G

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

English doesn't work that way. Man is the closest work to woman. Doesn't mean you pronounce the "m" "a" "n" in the two words the same way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody made english, nor is a language static. It is an everchanging result of millions of people using and evolving it.

A language that doesn't change is dead, like latin is. So any rule of how something is supposed to be in a language is subject to time and place, but never absolute.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

That's my point. If everyone pronounces a word a certain way, THAT is its correct pronunciation. The first person to say a thing doesn't get to tell everyone else they're wrong.

Everyone started using the word "literally" to mean figuratively, so the official definition changed to mean either or.

Everyone says GIF similar to gift, then that's the proper pronunciation. Creator has no say.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't really give a fuck what he intended. If he wanted it to be pronounced JIF he should have named it that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So how do you pronounce giraffe or giant or gin?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you pronounce "graphic"?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

How do you pronounce "underwater?" (It's the "u" in scuba)