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There is no reason for a bot to be able to access or post on defederated social networks if the goal is to make social media humane.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Humans literally run bots to do things that they wouldn't/couldn't/or shouldn't DO. Your logic is beyond reproach.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What? Bots automate what humans would, could or should (or more accurately want) to do.

No one, literally no one, thinks "Oh, I should do something terrible, but I can't, but if a bot does it then it's fine."

Bots are just an extension of what humans already want to do. If a bot is designed to be "good" then it is, if it is designed to be "bad" then it's bad.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay so then, if a human wants to post score of every sports game to a community, they can't unless they practice the discipline in doing so. A bot removes the human limitation and allow them to do something that is not possible otherwise, and I believe the end result is content that is removed from the humanity behind it in the first place. A self-defeating prophecy that spells my disinterest and permanent doom for fediverse -- I can't stand this place and the ignorance regarding sensitive topics and the disdain to change.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just so we're on the same page, bots are here and are going to post.

You can make a rule that bots can not post, but bots will still post. They won't be labeled as bots and you'll have to spend all of your time investigating every account. For all you know I'm a bot and for all I know you're a bot.

Also it is absolutely possible for a human to post the score to every game. When I watch a TV show I come to lemmy to discuss it. When I get here it is already posted. If it wasn't I could post it.

On Reddit some subs would have a bot post it. On some small subs the bot would break. Users would still post a thread. Discussion would still happen.

The advantage of having a bot post is that bots are organized, bots are predictable, bots make it easier. Bots are just a tool. Bots can be a positive tool.

Also, since I have no idea what you're talking about in regards to ignorance, sensitive topics and change. When I posted my comment this post was full of circlejerk "no bots ever" comments and that's it. I have a different opinion. I'm happy to discuss that opinion. We are allowed to disagree. If you can't have a reasonable discussion I don't give a shit if you stay on the Fediverse or not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I think disallowing 3rd party api the ability to post would pretty much overnight stop all bots, whereas, in your head, you would have to investigate them all? no. we aren't on the same page or in the same textbook.