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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

is it decades of hacky code, or decades of battle tested code?

I haven't touched wordpress in... many years, but I've seen far too many developers look at old code and call it junk... only to break things horrifically when they attempt a rewrite.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hacky.

Wordpress has a reputation for the most moronic security issues. Especially when it's built on PHP, which has its own reputation for moronic security issues. And that's saying nothing about the quality of plugin developers or plugin code.

I've worked on Wordpress sites, plugins, and themes. That was many years ago now, but I doubt it's changed that much. If anything, it's mostly benefited from improvements to PHP.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Has to rank as one of the most exploited pieces of software ever.

Definitely be not aided by the fact it's targeting an audience without the skills or knowledge to adequately configure, maintain and monitor it. And the plugin community only makes the vulnerability exposure worse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yup. I imagine a lot of users install a lot of plugins they don't actually need, which just expands the attack surface.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Kind of the old Windows vs Mac problem though. It gets so many exploits because it is so ridiculously popular. No one is going to bother looking for exploits in shit that no one uses right? I'm sure they've got problems like any project but I'm not convinced they're THAT bad. Not to mention a lot of exploits you see are plugins doing dumb shit, not WP itself.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Both honestly. Very spaghetti, but noone can deny that it just works from a user perspective. Would I want to maintain the code? Hell no! Do use it as an end user? Hell yeah!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah, not touching that with a 10' pole. There have been far too many exploits for me to feel comfortable putting any of my important data on it. And it's not just that it's popular, the level of sophistication for these attacks are... alarmingly low.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a public site that'll be backed up regularly, what kind of important data would you be putting out publicly?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

If it's an e-commerce site, than people's payment info, name, and address. If it has a login, then their login information (which they're most likely reusing elsewhere). Even if it's just a static site, than any data that might be hosted on the same server.