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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/19004972

Let’s be honest, the real reason Lemmy build most of its traffic is because of Reddit users. But the thing is, outside of the mass exodus in the west that too from the PC era.. people discover and join Reddit not because it’s another social media like Facebook or Twitter that people need to reserve their usernames on like a brand or celebrity but because Google Search is kinda… actually absolute trash by SEO and machine learning crawlers.

Most of the world (I am from India btw, hello~) join or even discover reddit because they’re trying to search for actual solutions, recommendations, advice or even reviews by actual experienced people without having to go through another YouTuber which can stem from troubleshooting a router, finding an actual FOSS option or seeking immediate solutions to the recent CrowdStrike fiasco for example. After having to visit reddit every time whenever using a search engine including for education to career advice, I ended up directly signing up with reddit a decade ago.

Recently, Reddit even restricted its search results to Google only in a business partnership meaning those using Bing, DuckDuckGo to Ecosia or even SearchGPT wouldn’t be able to access Reddit answers anymore. Say, if someone searches for how to block ads on chrome as example - Solutions like uBlock Origin come into existence and continue to exist because of the combined community in Reddit that Lemmy is trying to preserve.

Unlike others, am not saying Lemmy would be dead but it would be pretty much like Discord-Telegram or Tumblr instead of wiping Reddit or correcting Facebook. Reddit is not something you discover from word-of-mouth or join from peer pressure unlike other social media which is even truer for Lemmy but because it actually helps and is useful to people.

Lemmy can’t be taking the path of 𝕏 (Alone Mask’s Twitter) but any of the good platforms were before the Enshittification with Facebook’s way~

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then there’s the fact that any communities that are specific to peoples interests are completely empty.

Those should be locked, and redirect to more generic active communities for the time being.

Any example in mind?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sailing. Boating. Sewing. Those are they tops ones I miss from reddit that had active users. Instead we have 7000 communities for linux and pervy anime.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I mean it predates a lot of the pervy anime, but Usenet looked the same at the start with lots of Unix/computer boards and an alt.

Computer enthusiasts gonna enthusiastically talk about computers. People who pick up and move to a new platform are likely to be united around being technically competent enough to get there first, and everything else second.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Very true. But that's what we can create whole instances for: to be the site you think will attract the users you want. With curated feeds, less pervy content, whatever.

There's nothing stopping anyone from starting a whole new world they want to see in the fediverse. Lemmy and other fedi apps are built like this for that very purpose.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but I'm talking about mass adoption. Very few users care, they want to scroll through and see stuff they like. They don't want to curate and host and delve into the intricacies. Until such time as someone makes lemmy palatable, the masses won't eat it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That level of feed curation will appeal more to the masses, yeah. Just no one has started an instance like that yet. Although you seem like the perfect person, based on your analysis and responses. 😉

Bluesky is closer to what you're describing. The platform is more centralized and the feeds are more curated for the masses.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm that level of user that will block the ever loving shit out of everything but not do much to make it better. The problem is that once you've blocked everything you have pretty much zero interest in there isn't much left on lemmy. Still better than reddit though.