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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Y'know... If I were just a liiittle bit more paranoid, this would start looking like it's all planned out. Make the other guy so bad that people will basically have to choose between 'mild' genocide and a complete lunatic who wants to create a Theo-Fascistic Middle Ages kingdom.

I'm honestly not chipping into the debate, firstly because this particular moral quandary is a Kobayashi Maru type deal, secondly because I'm not American so it's not my place. Just random thoughts...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You think it's all a ruse to do more genocide? Why would they need a smoke screen for that? Why assume it has anything to do with Israel when we have no shortage of problems within the country that both sides would like us to ignore?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

I honestly have no idea what the ultimate machinations behind such a plan would be, I don't even believe that's necessarily the case, just something which strikes me as almost so ridiculously bad, that it has to be fake. Maybe I'm just an optimist, hell if I know...

But to give into flights of fancy, one of the reasons why I could see someone wanting to prolong a massive conflict (maybe even two!) would be to sell weapons and generally implements of war. Would track with past behaviour. I'm sure there are plenty of other imaginable economic and political reasons, but that's beyond speculation.

They did start selling weapons to any citizen who can enter a store, ask, and pay for one while there were no conflicts quite on this scale going on, which may or may not be just a coincidence. Again, haven't the foggiest and this is all in good... uuh... fun, I guess.