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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but by continuing to support the tipping system, nothing will ever change. The best thing to do is stop giving business to restaurants with a tipping culture.

If enough people refuse to eat at these places, eventually employees will start quitting and restaurant owners will have to start paying their workers a decent wage.

There are plenty of restaurants with delicious high-quality food and no tips accepted. You don't have to be waited on by a server.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While your plan is good in theory, how many places like this have you found? I have ran into a grand total of zero. It's hard to support businesses doing it a better way when you can't find any.

[–] IcyRain 1 points 1 year ago

The simplest solution is to stick exclusively to takeout. Avoid the screaming babies and save up on overpriced drinks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Literally everywhere. On top of my head, these are just some of the many non-fast food places I can think of in my area, where you just walk up to the counter and order:

  • Café Rio
  • Chipoté (okay maybe this one doesn't count)
  • Flower Child
  • Jimmy Johns / Port of Subs / Jersey Mike's
  • Kyoto Bowl
  • Panera Bread
  • Portillo's
  • Thai Chili 2 Go
  • Wing Stop
  • Yogi's Grill
  • Most ramen shops and "New York Style" Chinese restaurants,
  • And literally any pizza place.

Unless you live in a small rural town (or aren't American), I know you have at least one of these brands in your area. They're all mostly nationwide chains.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I guess I missed that you're intentionally avoiding places with waiters/servers. That's what I had in mind. I've visited plenty of places that don't have a tip jar out or activate the tipping feature on the credit card machine. I don't really consider them making progress away from the wild tipping culture we currently have. They just haven't fallen into the ridiculous yet. I get what you're saying now.

Ultimately, nothing's going to change unless something changes on the state or federal level. My state tried instituting a minimum wage that included waiters, but restaurants put up such a stink that the waiter part got reversed. "We'll have to raise our prices!" Yeah no shit, but then we won't pay tip. It theoretically should wash out in the end.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess the issue then is your definition of fast food. I wouldn't count the majority of those because they're fast food.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well allow me to clarify, then: My definition is cheap junk that is available fast. Many of the restaurants I listed might be fast, but not all of them are cheap processed junk. You can't call Panera junk, for example.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You can't call Panera junk, for example.

Yes you can. It's fast food. Just slightly more upscale fast food.