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Ditch Telegram for Piracy. (mastodon.social)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Ignoring the context.

Don't pirate over Telegram, it's no longer safe in terms of privacy and legal safety.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Don't Google hold the keys to the kingdom on that one? I see it as unlikely that Signal adds support.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

At the moment, essentially.

The way Google got carrier buy-in for yet another messaging platform was to basically run it for them at no charge.

The carriers COULD run their own RCS infra, but if you're getting the milk for free, why buy the cow?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure, at least iMessage will add RCS. But this has the benefit to get the correct chat bubble color for Google. I'm not sure if there'll be anything to gain for them to include Signal. Maybe the EU will force them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

RCS isn't E2E, and it doesn't minimize metadata.

Moxie Marlinspike has been strongly against federation in Signal because of how it makes avoiding metadata almost impossible.

I'd say there's basically zero chances Signal will add RCS.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

E2E is not in the standard, but the Google implementation uses it.

Google added end-to-end encryption to their Messages app using the Signal Protocol as the default option for one-on-one RCS conversations starting in June 2021,[88] [89] (83] [90] In December 2022, end-to-end encryption was added to group chats in the Google Messages app for beta users and was made available to all users in August 2023.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

You're right. I've read somewhere that Apple plans to work with GSMA to add encryption to the official RCS standard, so this major issue hopefully gets fixed at some point.