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It's actually kind of my major (and basically only) beef with the show. The West Coast was basically recovered, it had this whole story arc where the NCR was playing out the American cycle again including a Manifest Destiny idea, humanity never learns etc, and then it just collapses because Todd can't be trusted with other people's toys. Like, the NCR had more than one city, and more than one important city, it was like pretending 1812 America would collapse because Washington DC got burned.
On the other hand, it was fun, so, whatever.
Again, deep diving into the lore, the NCR was on the decline already. We see it in New Vegas. The Bear was bloated and encumbered itself with pointless wars of expansion and major corruption. The Boneyard Seperatists were gaining traction, and other parts of the country were in economic distress. The Mojave Territory is simultaneously over and underfunded, and is being used as a distraction from the major internal problems. If Shady Sands was nuked in a non-NCR ending to New Vegas I could see every city rising up and forming their own states.
That's the thing, all that shit is true about Manifest Destiny America too. And if the NCR had dissolved into semi-functional city states that'd be a cool element but we didn't see any evidence of it.
Maybe next season?
I partially believe they didn’t want to introduce too much beyond what Tod Howard outlined in case the next game takes place in the new ruins of California and it all gets retconned. More than likely Howard just told them Shady Springs is destroyed and the NCR collapsed so that’s all they wanted to show. New Vegas being in supposed ruin is the bigger point that opens up a lot of questions.