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I don't understand why there are so many people who consider themselves "Marxist feminists", but at the same time are distracted by astrology.

The origin of feminism is working class, and as a working class movement, it is materialist. I don't know if they at least know what dialectical materialism is, since they don't see such an abysmal contradiction between astrology (pseudoscience) and feminism (materialism).

They remind me of the liberal “feminist” Gloria Steinem.

And the same with some anarchists.

What do you think about it?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Humans and mysticism is pretty much a fact of life you can't separate the two. Most people will have their own personal set of rituals that don't have any basis in material reality but are done anyway for comfort and trying to feel some level of control in a chaotic world. I don't really see the importance of focusing on one specific kind of mysticism and correlating it to feminism it doesn't really make any sense to me. The fact that some people like astrology doesn't prevent or interfere with feminism they're not contradictory.

An aggressive dislike of it is more of a red flag to me tbh. I have my own silly little rituals I do to make me feel better. If I believe an item I have gives me good luck and I take it with me when I go outside am I now not a marxist because i hold contradictory beliefs between political ideology and the concept of luck? I don't think so

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Humans and mysticism is pretty much a fact of life you can't separate the two

Speak for yourself. Making claims about "hooman nayture" being linked to mysticism isn't any more historically accurate than saying human nature is linked to violence and war. Sure, it's been a constant in most societies for most of history, but who's to say that's not just something we'll examine in textbooks in the future?

I agree with the particular focus on astrology, and I don't even see the link between astrology and feminism and I think it's weird from OP.

Silly rituals are one thing (culture, tradition), belief that supernatural forces affect the material reality is a very different category