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You can play any games you want, though? Throw an emulator on there and play all your old games. Install non-steam games, add them to Steam using its very easy to use "Add a non-Steam game" button, and play as normal.
Heck, if you don't like Linux you can just install Windows on the thing.
Steam takes a lot of money and then turns around and invests it into the gaming community.
They also use that money to pay their employees more than the industry average and to make their owner a billionaire that owns a yacht collection. They could 100% afford to take a smaller cut with only Gabe "feeling the impact".
I saw a review where it was said that you can only play steam games, but I just looked it up and apparently you can play all the other games as well by simply adding them or launching other launchers..
Steam invest's into the gaming community? Do you have any source for that so that I can read about that?
They're pretty much the entire reason gaming on Linux is as active as it is today.
I'm not AwesomeLowlander but you asked for something that can be googled in literally 5 to 10 seconds:
Yes, maybe it just takes 5 seconds. But it's not my turn to Google things people claim here, especially because I nicely asked for sources ( to inform myself about it ).
Anyway, I'll not respond here anymore
It always it. That's basic media savviness. Asking for things that take 5 secs to google is rude.
In the same stroke though the onus to supply backing to any given position or assertion is on the one claiming facts. Else one can go around claiming anything they want and just yell at others to "google it".
This one is easily found out through a simple search and all but burden of proof isn't on the one asking for proof, it's on the one making the assertion. If they want to verify the proof, then that's on them of course.
Valve supporting gaming on Linux is common knowledge here. For very niche knowledge or hard to google terms, I'd agree but there's a limit. One cannot expect to cite sources for every single bit of common knowledge.
The amount of work required to ask for a source is similar to googling it directly, maybe asking is even more work because usually selecting the claim and then right-click --> "Search web for XYZ" works just fine.
Yeah I agree they should have just looked it up because it's easy to check. Just was disagreeing that it's their responsibility to prove it. Their responsibilities are verifying and they failed. It was a stupid pedantic point and I probably shouldn't have bothered. Sorry if I ruffled feathers. Typed before I thought.
Source, please?
I know you don't give a flying fuck. Have it anyways. 😘
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
https://www.logicalfallacies.org/burden-of-proof.html
https://assets.cambridge.org/97811070/46627/frontmatter/9781107046627_frontmatter.pdf
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(law)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/burden_of_proof
Yeah, I have a Steam Deck, and it's literally just a PC in the form factor of a Switch. It has a BIOS menu, you can install Windows on it (but you really shouldn't), you can install a different flavor of Linux (I recommend Bazzite) -- you can even install and play pirated Windows games through Proton, more or less fine, though you have to work for it a bit more.
They developed Proton so that they could get Windows games working on the Deck, and the reason they didn't make the Deck run Windows is they wanted greater control over the OS than Windows affords. Proton has benefited all gamers on Linux. More recently, they've officially partnered with Arch as of a few days ago (which is what SteamOS is built on): https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/the-arch-linux-team-is-now-working-directly-with-valve-steamos-and-arch-should-both-benefit-greatly
and just to gush a bit more: the Deck is the only thing I can remember pre-ordering in the last 10 years and being genuinely happy that I did.
And add to that the story behind DXVK, which was the turning point around 2018 for Linux gaming. Valve hired the guy who created it, so they could develop it professionally instead of as a hobbyist. With it remaining open source and free.
Yes, they do it because it helped them achieve what they wanted. But they don’t lock it down and they work with a lot of OSS which is then upstreamed.