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Kia officially launched the 2025 Ray EV in Korea with the same low starting price of under $21,000. However, the new model year gains additional features. With incentives, the entry-level electric car can be bought for as little as $15,000 (20 million won).

The “New Kia Ray” was reborn as an entry-level EV last year. After opening pre-orders last August, starting at around $20,500 (27.35 million won), the Kia Ray EV secured over 6,000 reservations in less than a month.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Losing range has way more to do with speed than AC or an extra passenger. Taking side roads going 40 mph will give me a massive range boost vs the highway going 70-75 mph (2011 Leaf with "82 miles" range on the fully charged GOM).

I barely notice a difference with extra passengers and weight (which makes sense since an extra passenger adds about 0.5% to the cars weight.

And running heat kills battery much more than AC. AC will impact it a bit, but usually only about 5% in my estimation

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Can confirm, I had a '11 Leaf SV in the boiling desert heat. I could get 85 miles out of it when the gom started at 70 (I think the highest I saw was 5.4mi/kW) but if you - hypothetically cough cough - ran it flat out at the 93mph top speed, it could eat through that 70ish gom in about 15 miles. Speeds above ~50 absolutely tank the Leaf's range.

Heat is bad unless your model has a heat pump. Late 1st gens had it (as an option, I think). I've heard it's more than worth the upgrade. But heat on the battery is way worse, as it kills cells fast. I lost 10% SoH (I think that's the correct term, been a while) in 4 months in the desert heat. Environment is the biggest factor by a massive margin for the Leaf. Range is short term pain but battery degradation is permanent and can only be solved with replacement. It's the one thing I didn't like about the Leaf - everything else is great.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

1500 kg car and one 75 kg passenger makes 5%, with 3 passengers 15%.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I stand corrected. I still don't think it affects range much

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do they officially call it a guessometer?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I don't think so. That's just we all call it