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Just started getting this now. Hopefully it's some A/B testing that they'll stop doing, but I'm not holding my breath

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[โ€“] [email protected] 278 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I hate how these kinds of messages never explain WHY. It's just "Do it. Do what we tell you." ๐Ÿ’€

[โ€“] [email protected] 122 points 1 month ago (3 children)

BOW TO YOUR MASTERS, AND SUCK OUR DICK!!!!

I remember 10 years ago looking at a calculator app in the android app store, and seeing the permissions. And thinking "WHY THE FUCK DOES A CALCULATOR NEED MY LOCATION, AND ACCESS TO MY PHONE CONTACTS???"

Fuck THAT.

[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What dick? pretty sure it's fallen off from all the STD's.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I found out yesterday the Samsung system camera app will not function without "Nearby Devices" permissions. Utterly ridiculous.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It needs to be able to tell nearby devices to "say cheese", so they can blink their LEDs prettily before you take a photo.

[โ€“] sleen 7 points 1 month ago

All those years, and I still have no explanation why some apps want my browsing history.

[โ€“] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago

For ads, tracking and spying of course.

[โ€“] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Probably because 99.999% of users already use JS and dedicating a web page to it is already more work than they needed to put into it

[โ€“] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it's just to avoid explaining why, and how they harvest your data. That said, I also hate how a lot of errors of the big corpo are just like "This site has an error" no error-code, no further feedback what to do etc.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It probably logs the error automatically. There's nothing you can do on your end to fix their code problem in most cases which is why there is no feedback on what you should do..

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

No no it's more interesting if it's for evil corporate reasons! Lmao

[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Because they dont need to

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lot of websites are react which doesn't function without JavaScript. It's a more powerful tool for web dev and can be a better experience for the user if used right.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Great. If that was their reason, they could explain that. But they didn't and that's my beef.

But since you seem to be tech savvy, you also already know why they don't explain which great features of react they want to use on this page. And we all already know it's not for the user's benefit. It's for money they receive from data mining every minute of our lives.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

In google's case, you might be right. However in general what are you expecting the website to say? An explanation of why react was chosen over other languages? Otherwise the reason you have to enable JavaScript on a react website is because the site doesn't work without it. I see that like complaining that your gas light on your car doesn't provide an explanation as to why gas is required for it to run.

If you are curious why a lot of sites use languages like react instead of plain html, there are a few reasons. Prior to react like languages, web servers would generate the page, send it to you, and then anytime you interacted with the site it would send you a whole new page to display. I.e. if you opened a popup for uploading a file, it would send you a whole new page to display which is why older sites flicker on basically any interaction. Newer sites that use things like React are downloaded once. It basically downloads the code to make the website and then runs entirely on your machine. The benefit to this is that if you sort a list, open a drop-down, open a popup to download a file, etc. it all happens on your computer instead of some remote server. No need to wait for a server to respond or download a new page, it can update that specific part of the page instead. Some sites are even fully functional offline because of this which is really cool in my opinion.

This makes a far better user experience because everything is instant and doesn't trigger page reloads on every interaction with the site.

It's good for developers because it allows code reusability and vastly increases what you can do. Many of the critical features I have on my site are not possible without JavaScript/React. I actually first developed the site using the old style and changed it over to React because of those limitations.

Google could have updated their site to one of these languages to open up new possibilities in what they can do on their site. That or they might be making it more consistent with their other products for maintainability reasons. I find it unlikely that the people who have JavaScript turned off are a large enough portion of the population for them to care about their data but I could be wrong.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Because if they typed out an honest reason why, you would avoid them like the plague.