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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 months ago (5 children)

On one hand, eff Microsoft and install Debian. It'll run on a potato.

On the other hand, I look forward to the coming glut of secondhand PCs I can install Debian on.

As melon scratchers go, that's a honey doodle.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I think we're gonna see a dramatic rise in Linux systems in the coming years if Microsoft keeps this course. Nvidia have started upping their Linux driver game as well so it's gonna be a breeze to pick up decent second hand systems and reselling them with a proper OS that'll take us to the end of the world in 24 years.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Been reading this sentiment for twenty years now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And yet it's stayed true. Linux is above 1% on steam and rising every year, it's never been easier to buy a Linux device, or install and use Linux for desktop consumer purposes, and even the tech uninformed know Microsoft is a bag of dicks.

[–] BrikoX 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Recent Linux gain is inflated due to Steam Deck. Their market share has been pretty stale for years at 1,5%.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's not really being inflated, steam deck and the prerequisite investment into proton is why most gamers can switch to Linux without encountering a single issue these days.

[–] BrikoX 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If that were the case, the market share at least should have doubled after people saw it was viable for desktop gaming. That didn't happen. It only gained a predicted increase from the estimated sales of Steam Deck's, which indeed inflates the desktop PC numbers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So we don't count Microsoft Surfaces running windows or windows (on arm)?

[–] BrikoX 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sure, exclude them. Precise numbers are irrelevant here, as they don't change the basic facts. The simple fact is that Linux is stuck at 1.5%, and you are not able to dispute it, so instead you try to shift the argument to something else.

39.20% of Linux users on Steam are on Steam Deck. Tell me again, it's not inflated... And based on data, that doesn't translate into wider Linux adoption for gaming.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

But this time it's real! /s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think you’re massively underestimating the laziness of most people, and overestimating their level of concern. People. Don’t. Care.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I think you're 100% correct but a guy can hope. For my country, if it's gonna touch them in their wallets I guess we might see a change. On the other hand, most folks walk around with 8 year old fucked up laptops that desperately need replacing anyway so they'll just get that new one after all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

My wife is more technical than all of her friends and family, plus she has me to help her understand stuff she doesn’t understand. Does she get concerned when I tell her all the fucked up shit these companies are pulling? Nope! She gets annoyed at me for being a downer. If she’s an above average user, and she doesn’t care, then how little do average users care? If I change her settings for her then she’s glad for it, but she won’t go figure out how to do any of it on her own. She just doesn’t care enough to spend the time doing that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am in the exact same position there. My wife uses her laptop only professionally now, she used to game on it but she has a Series S for that now. I once asked her if she wanted windows 11 on her laptop since it meets the requirements, she's way to afraid it'll be too different so switching to Linux will be too much of a hassle

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would have already put Linux on my wife’s computer, but she has a Surface Pro, and I’ve read that there aren’t any distros that will get all of the hardware for those working properly. I don’t want her first experience with a Linux system to be something that is inferior. But she started saying a couple weeks ago that she wants a gaming system, so I bought parts for one last week, and I’m going to put Linux on it after I build it. That’ll be a good introduction for her, and if she loves it then she’ll be a Linux convert!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think primarily all the systems using like Skylake and Kaby Lake cpus will now flock to Linux after win10 support is over. The i7-7700K is still a beast so it'd be a shame if that becomes e-waste. I think we'll see it getting used in home media servers and the like. My old i7-4770 is in my home server with Arch Linux and it does great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t the people who are going to do that already be Linux users though? I don’t know anyone who has a home media server who hasn’t at least experimented with Linux. It takes some technical knowledge and desire to get everything configured correctly.

Arch is awesome! That’s what I use for my gaming desktop and my laptop. It’s near the top of the list for this new system I’m going to build, but I’m considering more hands-off distros too like Fedora, and its media focused derivatives.

[–] laurelraven 2 points 2 months ago

I work with a guy who has a couple home servers, runs an AD domain and Exchange server on them among other things, all Windows. He doesn't touch Linux.

Might be the exception, but at the very least they do exist.

[–] laurelraven 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't you mean 13 years and 3 months? At least, that's when the UNIX Epoch ends...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

If you're on a kernel newer than 5.6 (which is almost 5 years old now so you should be) you already have 64-bit time.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Thank you MS for working so hard to boost Linux market share.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Either way, you're net positive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Why would you scratch a melon? How would you even know if it's itchy???

Can you scratch pumpkins too?